The S.H.I.T.T.S Podcast
The S.H.I.T.T.S Podcast
Trust, Vulnerability, and Artistic Journeys
Can old photos and videos truly capture the essence of our personal growth? Join us on this heartfelt episode of The S.H.I.T.T.S Podcast as we welcome the incredible ILL Gordon, filling in for our regular co-host, B. We kick things off with a candid chat about ILL Gordon's week, sharing both the highs and the lows. I also take pride in some touching family moments, celebrating my son's basketball triumphs and my daughter's creative milestones. Then, we pivot to the NBA, where we cheer on Kyrie Irving's inspiring return with the Mavericks and discuss the shifting narratives around rising stars like Anthony Edwards.
Our conversation with ILL Gordon takes center stage as we dive into his latest album, "Illustrious." He opens up about the creative process behind blending hardcore boom-bap with smoother tracks, and the deeper meaning of the album’s title. We also explore the unique dynamics of the Chicago music scene, balancing independent artistry with group affiliations, and how historical context shapes local hip-hop. ILL Gordon's collaboration with Andreas Haley on standout tracks like "Fly Shit" offers rich insights into his artistic journey and the making of his music.
Reflecting on life's bigger themes, we discuss the significance of old photos and videos as emotional time capsules that document our growth and relationships. We touch on the impact of decision-making, the misconceptions around maturity, and the poignant reality of aging. In our conversations about relationships, we stress the necessity of trust, vulnerability, and self-awareness, sharing personal anecdotes to underscore these points. Wrapping up, we give heartfelt shoutouts to our loyal supporters and underscore the importance of genuine connections. Tune in for a thoughtful and engaging episode filled with personal reflections and meaningful dialogues.
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Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, heyweider, cool as cat. You heard this pop and this week I don't have my phenomenal co-host in the building B. She got some stuff she got to take care of. But tonight we got a very special guest to the podcast. This man has been on the podcast before. He is a super dope MC. Uh man coach, author hustler, all types of Uh man Coach, author Hustler, all types of shit man. There's so much more. There's so much I can say about this man. Tonight on this podcast I got my man, the one, the only, el Gordon, y'all. What up, what up. Yes sir, yes sir. How you feel, bro Good Can't complain man. How you feel, bro, good Can't complain man? How are you Chilling, man? I like the phone man A little flip joint.
Speaker 2:This is bowling. Niggas is bowling. You know what?
Speaker 1:I'm saying, hey, y'all Check it out, man, we out here at the Shiz Podcast and before we go any further, man, I got to give mad shouts, ownership Club, so 106.3. Check them out every Sunday, 9pm to midnight Every Sunday. Y'all, make sure y'all do that. Also, y'all make sure y'all check out this podcast on Spotify, apple Podcasts, anywhere you get your podcasts, make sure y'all check it out. Check out my girl B Carrington on TikTok. Also, check us out on TikTok. Find us everywhere. Goddamn it Yo. So, excuse me, gordo, what up?
Speaker 1:Since you are the phenomenal guest this week on the podcast man, how you week been, bro. It's been cool. It's been some ups and downs, but it's been cool. Okay. Okay, I can't complain. I won't complain, it's been cool. There you go. Cool, I can't complain. I won't complain, it's been cool. There you go. So that's the thing you gotta think about, that one you gotta like. Sometimes you ask people how everything going they be like can't complain. I say that shit all the time because it's like.
Speaker 1:I can't complain, but like it ain't gonna make no fucking difference, you know what I'm saying, so I choose to say can't complain. This week, for me, man has been man. It's been eye-opening. My son won a couple tournaments with his basketball team. So shout out to Illinois Bobcats doing their thing. They got a lot of dope coaches over there. My daughter is really doing her art thing. Man bro, check it out One day. I'm riding in the car with my daughter. Before we got in the car I had seen at the kitchen table just working on some stuff. She had a plastic bowl and some markers and she was coloring it.
Speaker 1:I said what you doing? And she was like I'm just working on some arts and crafts. So the thing, the only reason why well, not the only reason, one of the reasons why I thought that was dope is because it wasn't like she had to do it Right. You know, she was choosing to do it Right. So we, I said, why do you think it's important to be creative? And bro, she was like because it helped decrease your stress. Bro, she said that shit, at nine years old, G, that's dope. At nine years old, I'm like damn that's dope, that's dope, it's dope as fuck.
Speaker 3:So shout out to my daughter man. So anyway, that means she has a very high level of self-awareness.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? That's dope. Shout out to you, joe. And she always asks me she'd be like, she'd be like dad, what's the name of your podcast? Stop, stop, stop, cause you, no, no, no, I'm not, I'm not. She was like me and my friends want to watch. I'm like no, baby, no, baby, no, you got to wait till I do some PG episodes, but anyway, man, nba, super dope right now.
Speaker 1:I want to say they're super dope right now, but shout out to the Mavs man no doubt Shout out to the Mavs because I think that Kyrie Irving has got his spot back in people's hearts. You know what I'm saying, for all the shit that that man went through over in Brooklyn and Boston for him to come out and pretty much demolish and Boston for him to come out and pretty much demolish.
Speaker 3:I mean, one thing you got to say about Kyrie is that he, I look at him as almost like the definition of standing on his business. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Like he's never wavered. Even when the odds was against him, even when the league was on him, like that, he stood his ground. He did, he stood his ground. And you know, I don't think it was an issue with his talent or his skill. We knew he could hoop. I think it was just, you know, the little controversy stuff. But I think the one thing I noticed out of all of it is that he just remained him throughout the entire process and it kind of worked out in his favor.
Speaker 1:He's possibly about to be another yeah, I mean like it's commendable because it's like they didn't fold. You know what I'm saying. So with some people they may feel like man, this nigga think the earth is flat. Well, there's a lot of motherfuckers that think the earth is flat. He ain't the only motherfucker. You know what I'm saying. So I be like damn and I kind of feel like man. Another thing all those motherfucking Michael Jordan comparisons that they was doing with Anthony Edwards. That shit is out the door. I mean out that shit out the door. What I'll say is I ain't going to say it's out the door and the reason why. That's what I was going to say.
Speaker 3:That's what I was going to say. Only reason I ain't going to say it's out the door. We got to keep in mind he's only 22 years old. Okay, you know what I'm saying. And he did kind of show up this season. He had a very big season, regular season, definitely, and playoffs, like we're going to keep him on in playoffs.
Speaker 1:It ended after the Denver series.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean he only had like one good game, one and a half good games in the Dallas series, to be honest. But I keep that in mind and I think what the Jordan comparison is more with his athleticism and his will to just not back down and that killer-esque thing Greg and Eddie does a couple moves where it's like that little Jordan-esque, yeah, but you know, at the end of the day I'm like, well, dude, only 22 years old, you know what I'm saying. Mike wasn't no champion at 22. Not to take nothing away from the GOAT, but in the same breath at least I understand why the comparisons were made. He kind of put that team on his back.
Speaker 3:What would you compare? A cat to? A real-life cat, like a little furry kitten, A cat that you buy from the pet store and take it home and pet it, put out the litter. You know what I'm saying. You know one of the most domesticated animals that you can get, Definitely one of the timber wolves, though he was not a wolf of this series man at all. I'm very disappointed. I've never been a huge cat fan but I've never not liked him. But I thought he would definitely rise to the occasion a little bit more during this series.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I thought so too.
Speaker 3:He had a mismatch but he shot what I think he said. He shot like five or six for like 30 or 40 from the three-point line.
Speaker 1:I think it was like they said 10 for 30-something. That's what they did 10 for. I looked at that like that was coming from a two-time three-point contest champion. True, but you know what?
Speaker 3:Somebody said this too, but I said I'm like man, he's like the best big man in the league. They was like, yeah, he's wide open, that's true. Right, he's wide open. I mean you can shoot, but what was that accuracy when we needed it? That's true. Yeah, you're a three-point champ. What was that accuracy when we needed it?
Speaker 1:That's true, yeah, you're a three-point chap.
Speaker 3:That's cool, but where was that three-point chap shooting when we needed it?
Speaker 1:Right. So it's kind of like to me. I looked at it like it just seemed like when folks was playing, like they was kind of shook.
Speaker 3:That's what I kind of got from it. I can see that too.
Speaker 1:You going up against a motherfucker like Kyrie, that is like 14-0 in closeout games. Yeah, that's nuts. Well, now one, oh yeah, 14-1. Right, then you got Luka. That's kind of like he's unguardable God dog, unguardable man.
Speaker 3:How you gonna be slow and unguardable Because of his skill. He has a high level, he has a high skill set.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I see it. I see it because he was just bullying motherfuckers. Yes, he controls the game. Yeah, I mean, he definitely controlled Rudy Gobert, nigga, nigga. Like I said, dude, it was just confusing to me that I kind of felt like if you're a defensive player of the year, then you understand the concept of defense, true Period. You understand the concept of defense, true Period. You understand the concept of defense on the center. You understand the concept of defense on the forward or guard, so devil's advocate, right.
Speaker 3:I was actually watching somewhere they said that maybe they were talking about the last players to win defensive player of the year, right, a lot of them have been big men, and I think it's because they control the paint and they get based upon that, so it's like, when it comes to that, it has to be more. I guess, even when you're thinking about can they guard the perimeter as well instead of just the paint?
Speaker 1:Because he definitely couldn't guard the perimeter, Not at all. Yeah, that man on skates. Hey, I'm going to take a break real quick. Hey, man, shout out to all the big motherfuckers out there that be getting ass cooked by them. Motherfucking guards man. It's the Shits Podcast. Y'all, it's the Shits.
Speaker 3:It's comedian Marnie P checking in from the Shits Podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. We are now back at the Shits Podcast. We either shooting shit, starring some shit or picking up what shit left off. I got my man, il Gordon, in the building what up? So, man, let's talk about this new project. Bro. Let's do it, because I always tell people, man, when I think about lyricists and writers, your name is top five. You know what I'm saying Because I know you write constantly. I do, and I know you put projects out constantly. So what's the name of the new project?
Speaker 3:The name of the project is called Illustrious. I feel like that's what's the name of the new project. The name of the project is called Illustrious. Wow, you know what I'm saying? Wow, illustrious. I feel like that was the vibe I was on in this project. Okay, definitely giving you some of those hardcore bone-back bars, but also there's a lot of kind of smoother tracks. Okay, it gives you more like a fake bougie feel. You know what I'm saying. So that's kind of where it came from, playing off the namesake as well. It kind of just got that vibe for me so do you have any features on the project?
Speaker 3:yeah, on Illustrious, actually on Illustrious, I got my man Andreas Haley. Shout out to Andreas Haley, formerly known as Dat Benis hey man, I'm a huge fan Go ahead though. Yeah, so he's the only feature on that project. Dat Benis, that's the fly shit joint.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, that is in my playlist, that's in heavy rotation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when you think about fly shit, what's fly shit to you?
Speaker 3:To me. I guess the image that I get when I think of fly shit is like the first word that comes to mind is pristine. You know what I'm saying? Look that word up, motherfucker.
Speaker 3:It's just like if we're talking about clothes or gear from head to toe, you fly, you're crispy or whatever Okay. If we're talking about venues or places, it's just flawless, it's like nothing is wrong with it. You know what I'm saying? Okay, so when I think of fly shit, I just feel like that's the time where nobody can say anything outside of giving you your props on whatever it is that you're doing Okay. Yeah, so that's what I think of Almost like the perfect scene.
Speaker 1:So, speaking of getting props, when you think about what you've done not just in the city, because you've been overseas touring, you got records overseas, you've done work with people overseas when you talk about getting props, do you think that in this city, that you have to be with a certain group of people in order to truly get your props, or do you think people, or do you think we as music connoisseurs, actually look and we search for that dope shit?
Speaker 3:That's a good question. To be honest, I think it's a little bit of both. Okay, right, because and let's, let's, you know, let's speak about, I guess, like chicago artists or the chicago scene, um, I think it's a little bit of both, because they're artists that I've never heard of, but then when I look them up, they have a very huge following. Yeah, so I'm saying like how I never heard this, but then when I look them up, they have a very huge following. You know what I'm saying? Like how I never heard of this person. A person I'm thinking about is my man, taco. Oh, I rock with Taco. So funny part about that is my man. Mike Logic linked me and Taco because we all played on the same basketball team.
Speaker 1:Get the fuck out of here, he didn't even know it.
Speaker 3:Didn't even know it. Okay. So that's when I first got introduced to Zocko I checked out his stuff. He's dope, but if I ever heard him mentioned outside of Mike Logic, mention him to me. No Right. But I come to find out he done sold out Reggie's like twice. Wow. So I'm saying like recently. So, but on the flip side, certain people that if you affiliate yourself with it can kind of give you a little bit more recognition. It prepares you a little bit. I'm going to keep that funky, you know what I'm saying. So I think it's a little bit of both, because you do. I have seen artists where I've never seen them mentioned, with no crews or clicks, but they also have created that following to where I'm good, you know what I mean, and so I also feel like that. There's also artists where you get those. I guess we would say stamps of approval, that part right there. Sometimes those stamps can take your status from here to here. So I think it's a little bit of both.
Speaker 1:Okay, I think Taco had won a live performer award for the 312 Music Awards, so I definitely heard of him. And I think the part that you said about if you, depending on who you with you know what I'm saying can kind of get your name out there Sometimes I think it's a pro, sometimes I think it's a con, because you may have a motherfucker that's affiliated with a certain crew, but sometimes the motherfuckerers got garbage, you know, and you're able to still get that kind of recognition because of the people that you roll with. And I think that's just something that with Chicago, that shit goes back to probably the fucking late 80s. You know what I'm saying. So I can, like I would love to do an experiment, like when you get some of the older hip-hop artists that you know from Chicago and see how they felt while they still experiencing the same shit when they was doing their thing. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I also think that and granted, I'm not, and granted I don't claim to be a full Chicago hip-hop historian or anything like that but I do think that there's never been a tremendous amount of musical outlets in Chicago, especially for independent, quote-unquote underground artists or whatnot. Good point. And so I think because of that, it became like a vacuum, and that's how we get quote-unquote gatekeepers Right. It became like a vacuum and and that's how we get quote-unquote gatekeepers right, because it's like, if it's not a lot of venues for artists to to show their art or to perform the venues that they do the artists perform or the good you know, I'm saying the bigger venues, whatnot?
Speaker 3:yeah, certain promoters or certain people that have you can put you into places like that right, and so I do think that that element as far as chic Chicago not having a lot of outlets for independent artists contributes to, I guess we could say some of the gatekeeping Right.
Speaker 1:I can definitely see that when you think about classic albums, right, because I was just talking to my son about this and we was talking about Illmatic and I was like I asked him. I said do you think? I said, do you know why this album is considered a classic album? He's 16, you know what I'm saying. So he was like because he said because of the way it's arranged, the content of it and it's relevance. So like he said that he's 16. So like range, the content of it and its relevance. He's saying that at 16. I look at it, that album is probably like 30, 40 years old, 25, 30. 25, 30 years old, at least I look at that like that's an album that's that old and it's still dope to this day. When you think about classic albums, what do you think makes an album classic?
Speaker 3:I think the I guess what's the word the playback ability. Okay, like how much do you listen to that entire album? How many times do you listen to that? I'm talking no skips, right, like you just listen to an album back to back, you go off, you start it over again, start it over again. I feel like that feeling is what makes a classic album for me. Of course you could talk about the technical stuff, production, how it's arranged, of course the bars, the lyrics, all that stuff play a part, but I think that when you find an album that you don't get sick of listening to, to me that's the beginning of what qualifies it as a classic.
Speaker 1:So when you think about that and you put your albums together and you start the writing process and you start picking out the beats progress how much of that do you take into consideration? Is that a huge focus? Is that like, like you know, I'm meticulous about this, this, this and this, because I'm really just trying to make that much of a classic album. Will you just let it flow?
Speaker 3:I never think about it. To be honest, like when I'm creating my music, I never think about, you know, I'm trying to make a classic, or I'm trying to make this for this person or that person. I honestly don't. I literally go off how I feel.
Speaker 1:That's dope, because I was listening to I think it was Rick Rubin. And Rick Rubin said artists, when you make your art, you should look at it like it's a journal, like a diary. He said. You don't look at the entries in your diary and be like I wonder if somebody don't like that Exactly you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Like you put it in there because that's what you feel. You know what I'm saying, so that's how your art should be. Yo, we got to take a break real quick and man shout out to all the motherfuckers out there that's putting entries in their diary and people didn't even know the niggas was gay, like eight years ago and shit. If they would have read it they would have known it's the Shits.
Speaker 2:Podcast. Y'all it's the Shits. What up? Y'all it's your boy. Letting y'all know about the hottest after party going on every Sunday at the Hathaway, 1245 Burnham Avenue in Calumet City, Illinois. Every Sunday, 10 pm to 2 am.
Speaker 1:It's the Sheep, it's just podcast and we out here chilling with the one and only El Gordon, yo, alright, so Alright. So I want to talk about I'm going to kind of switch gears a little bit, right. So a friend of mine, her birthday had just passed and she had posted up she posted up pictures, posted up old pictures, right, and with those old pictures she put, she like wrote a letter to herself at that time, kind of like describing what was going on at that time and how they got past it, how she got crazy. I'm saying that, uh, how she got past it and what she learned from the stuff, like that.
Speaker 1:And I, bro, I thought it was, I thought it was the most awesome shit, right, and it really made me think about old photos and how, to me, it made me feel like these are like a timestamp of where we were at a point in our life and how we got to where we're at. You know what I'm saying. And it really made me think about how, how people say I never changed. You say that shit's something wrong with you how people say I never changed.
Speaker 1:You say that shit's something wrong with you. I've always been like this. No, motherfucker, you haven't. You know what I'm saying. And I thought about those old photos because I think if people were really able to go from day one to now and see those old photos and be like damn, I fucking have changed, you know what I'm saying and they'd look, see those old photos and be like damn, I fucking have changed.
Speaker 3:You know what?
Speaker 1:I'm saying and they look at that and they be like man. They look at that picture and be like, yeah, I'm smiling, but I was going through this, this, this and this. You know what I'm saying? Or on this picture, I'm hanging with this person. This person because at the time I was going through this, this, this and this, and that person was helping me get through it. So when you start to think about those old photos and how it's a timestamp, what does it make you think about when it pertains to your life?
Speaker 3:So I was blessed. You know what I mean. What I mean by that is that my dad you know what I'm dad shout out to my pops man. He literally videotaped me from day two that I was born. When I say literally from day two, the next thing I know I'm still a baby. He got footage of that. I'm one years old, I'm two years old, I'm three years old.
Speaker 3:Literally I have video footage of snapshots of part of my life or eras of my life. Video footage of snapshots a part of my life or eras of my life. And it's such truly a blessing because to me, whenever I watch it, I'm able now to visually see how I was at those times in my life. That's dope as fuck. Like you know not, I have pictures and all that too. But it's different when I can look back and say, dang, I was 12 years old, I was fat as hell. Look, I was chubby as shit, trying to run like I was 12 years old. I was fat as hell. Look, I was chubby as shit, trying to run Like I was nasty. You know what I'm saying? Oh damn, I was 16. I'm hooping now. I made the game with it. But you know what I'm saying, right. So for me I feel like that mentally is almost like going into a time machine.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying, yeah, and I see it like physically, mentally, in a lot of aspects. So I know, for me it was definitely a blessing. Yeah, I mean the fact that I can go home tonight and watch a video from like two hours worth of film man bro, from birth to before I went to college.
Speaker 1:Man, that's great. So when you look at that, just say you were looking at those videos as someone else, not you. What do you think would be the most challenging parts in that story? Like what age would be the most challenging? Or the time that you would look at and be like you would feel you would not feel sorry for the person in there, but be like damn. It seemed like they was really really going through some shit at that time. Honestly.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm, none, really I don't think there's no part. And let's be clear, I'm not saying I didn't go through shit. Yeah, it ain't on camera. There's no. Not to say like the thing close to I can relate to is like okay, once I was a baby, uh, I did something, I got whooped, right that's all, but you know what I'm saying. There's nothing where I feel like, oh my God, like that's so traumatic for me. Yeah, I mean now what I can say is when I do watch the footage.
Speaker 3:My grandmother was a lot of the footage, okay, and my grandmother were very, very close, okay, past like my freshman year college yeah so when I do look at the footage, it's hard for me not to think about my grandmother at any point watching that footage, because that whole time my life she was well like, she was a hot kid. So I would say, if that's something, then yeah, that would be. The struggle for me is knowing that. You know, I lost my grandmother when I was like 18 years old, but that footage I have was from like birth to 18. Wow, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:So I think that that's like always been like a, I guess, a pain point for when I do watch the footage. But it's also a beautiful day because, like where I get to see my grandmother, yeah, yeah, you know so it's. I would say that would probably be my biggest struggle as far as watching the footage. But as far as like visually, I don't think there's anything visually on there where people would be like dang he, you know he's going through it, right now, yeah, yes, and that's interesting that you say that, man, about your grandmother first of all.
Speaker 1:recipes to your peace, to your grandmother, absolutely. But you think about the people. You think about the people that come into your life and how they shape In some shape, form or fashion, how they shape the way you think yeah, you know what I'm saying. Somebody came into your life and did something and was some type of influence to either push you probably to more a positive or probably a negative, or probably even both. You know what I'm saying. So if, like you said, but you, you, you, you are blessed to be able to look at those videos and see your grandma, you know what I'm saying. And I think about for other people, if they were able to look at those old photos or old videos and be like damn, I'm cool with that person all these years and I'm not If they can just pinpoint at what point in time in their life that shit changed, like damn that's what happened.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying and it's crazy man, because, like I said, people change and sometimes I think people look at it in a negative way and they be like you changed, no, motherfucking, everybody's gonna change, because the thing is shit happens.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Like you have to evolve, right? You know what I'm saying? Like that's changing. Like when a person evolves, they change, and if we didn't change a lot of us, there's no way. Life is about change, right? You know what I'm saying? That's the only thing that's constant, it's change. And the people that struggle with that the most are the ones that don't want to change Right. So you have to evolve, Otherwise I'd still be thinking like a 12-year-old.
Speaker 1:And it's crazy that you say that because you think. It's crazy that you say that because you think about people that you look at and you be like you still think the same fucking way.
Speaker 3:You haven't changed. You're still the same. You're still the same, motherfucker. You are grown men. How are you still 16 years old mentally?
Speaker 1:how are you stuck in that? To me, I think it's so many I'm going to say complexities, but that's not the word I'm pretty sure that's not the fucking word Complexities. I think it is a word we're going to say. It is that make you feel like when you start to like, when you have your own growth, and how that ripple effect, how it affects the people that you cool with you see what I'm saying, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's a change in you. So then it starts to. Somebody may either say, all right, well, I think we're going to be even cooler, yeah. Or some people may say, well, you know what, I can't really fuck with you. Yeah, I don't really fuck with you. Right, I don't really fuck with you.
Speaker 1:And it's so crazy that you may have people in your life as you look at those videos, that may be more distant, but then as you start to change, they become closer to you. To change, they become closer to you. You know what I'm saying Because it's like, oh, buddy, kind of like on what I'm on right now, it's truly dope man. So, like I said, man, like when I sang that my friend put this shit up, dude, I just thought it was so, it was inspirational because it made me think about the whole concept of connecting the dots in our life, and to me it really seems like that's what we do, yeah, like we connect the dots. The beauty of it is you don't know, yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, you don't know the dot. You don't know what that next dot gonna be Exactly. Just like you said about Taco, yeah, we didn't even realize you was hooping with this motherfucker, at a point where it's like y'all, now you're on the music shit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Not realizing.
Speaker 1:y'all already had a connection before with the music man, so I think it's just, it's truly dope man. It's really making me think about the whole concept of life and paying attention to life. You see what I'm saying you have to Like.
Speaker 3:I tell my students, I I tell my students. I said decision making is not an isolated thing. I said every decision that you make in your life will lead to the next step of your life. You can't say because the kids a lot of times, when I get grown, I'm going to be more mature, I'll make 18. That starts now. You don't magically just become mature as soon as you turn 18 or 21 or 30. A switch, don't turn on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you mature now motherfucker Like nah 30.
Speaker 3:A switch, don't turn on you, sure that motherfucker? But I tell them it's like a permanent timeline Decisions you make when you're 2 affects you at 5. Decisions you make at 5 affects you at 10. Decisions you make at 10 affects you at 15. And so on and so on. But if your decision making pattern don't change, you'll still make those type of decisions, regardless of what age you are.
Speaker 1:I told y'all, I fucking told y'all, fucking told y'all, man, this man is a lyricist, this man is a motivational coach. He's a coach, a car mechanic, all this shit Straight up and then we're going to take a break real quick, man, yo shout out to all the motherfuckers out there man that's posting their pictures on Facebook and y'all shit ugly as fuck. Y'all get no likes. It's the Shits Podcast. It's the Shits.
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Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We are now back at the Shits Podcast. We shoot the shit. One man, el Gordo man. We just talked about old pictures, life albums, classic albums. Right, I'm talking about birthdays, bro. No, doubt so talking about this whole concept of life and birthdays, and I think sometimes first of all I think we put I think sometimes first of all, I think we put I think we look at getting older in a negative way.
Speaker 3:I don't why it's a blessing. It's a blessing G, and maybe because and it's funny because you know I work with kids and I tell them all the time you want to make it here right, since you want to get to this age. You know what I'm saying. So, of course, when I was young, I was like you know, you know that's the circle of life, but you know, being grown as hell now it's just like no, every year. Now I appreciate it more, cause I've lost friends. I've lost friends, I've lost classmates.
Speaker 1:I'm about to say guys, nope ain't changed that way, you got that right.
Speaker 3:I'm better go ahead. But you know, none of us know our expiration date, damn.
Speaker 1:It depends on how you look at that. It can be some scary shit or some very motivating shit.
Speaker 3:Either way it's real. That's true Whether you take it as fear or motivation. It's real. It's inevitable. That's true. None of us know our expiration date G, so for me, I always feel like if I'm blessed to have another year of life it's a blessing.
Speaker 3:That's true. It's truly a blessing man, especially when you see people throw their life away every day Doing stupid, doing dumb stuff, making dumb decisions. And throw your life away every day. I'm like life is gonna get money on you anyway. Yeah, why contribute to that? Why can't you walk the house to today by making bogus decisions? Granny, nobody's perfect. We all gonna fuck up. Yes, sir, I'll go make a mistake. We all gonna make a bogus decision sometimes. But it's the pattern of making the bogus decisions, making the same ones. Yeah, you didn't learn, you didn't learn nothing so you could cut your life short off of those decisions. But if not, you know happens. Yeah, yeah, like for real, like I know people, like I lost a classmate from elementary school last week. Damn, she was only in her early 40s.
Speaker 1:Where's your parents, though? I think she had like kidney failure, oh shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I hear that. Yeah, I mean. So it's just like you got to live life to the fullest man, and every year that you are blessed to be above ground is a blessing.
Speaker 1:That's true, that's true. Hold on now. Hold on For real, or it could have been.
Speaker 2:That's how you want to look at it.
Speaker 3:But hold on To that point though. I was having a conversation with my dad the other day. My dad is 68 years old. Okay, you know what I'm saying. Hold on. Yeah, no doubt, Definitely give it up. But if I'm being honest, that scared me G really. If I'm being honest, it scared me cause I was like shit it's a blessing that my pops been there for 68 years?
Speaker 3:yeah, no doubt. But it also made me realize she need two years from 70. You know what I'm saying? That's not young, right? You know what I'm saying? So I'm 73.
Speaker 1:That's what's up. That's definitely what's up.
Speaker 3:So I just think, because my father don't look his age at all, but it's like when he says like oh, I'm 68, I'm about to be 69. I think there's just something hitting.
Speaker 1:I was like damn Pop's, like 69.
Speaker 3:Right, I'm like damn Pop's freaking old Right, and I never felt that way about my father my entire life. But when he said it the other day it kind of hit me a little bit like oh, you know what I'm saying, but, like I said, it's still a blessing man, I'm still a blessing G.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean like my dad man, when he told me that he was 73, I said young, but you don't look young, young, you don't look like you're 73. And that shit was inspiration, because I'm like, hey, if I can look like that at 73, I'm good, life is good. And I got a 12-year-old brother. So I'm like, hey, man, look, I got no, I'm sorry a 14-year-old. I got a 14-year-old brother and a 16-year-old. But I'm like, no doubt, hey, man, look, no doubt Straight up. So can you think of something, man, that? Can you think of one concept that has changed for you as you got older, like as you was younger, you was like, eh, hell, no, that would never happen. But then, as you got older, you was like I could see that, oh yeah, like what? No, that would never happen. But then, as you got older, you was like I could see that, oh yeah, like what would it be? The thought of marriage, did it go?
Speaker 3:down, or so I never really really thought about being married for real, for real. Okay, you know what I'm saying. Like, the idea of it, the idea of it sounded cool. Okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Like, okay, everybody… Depends on who you talk to Right Depends on who you talk to.
Speaker 3:But for me it was like, okay, the idea just sounds cool. You know what I mean? Yeah, as I… when I became an adult, when I was in my younger years, I was like, well, I'll be cool having a permanent girlfriend. You know what I'm saying. But as I've gotten older as well, I start to think about more of my future. You know, I'm just being realistic if I'm being honest. And it made me just become more of a believer of just having that consistent structure, Because there's a lot of bullshit out here. There's a lot of bullshit, and I just think that it depends on your priorities. And for me, my peace of mind is more important than anything you know what I'm saying Than anything. So if you do that part, yeah Than anything. G Like, if you ain't got peace of mind, you can't really move. What's the purpose? What's the purpose? So I feel like when you find that person that can provide you with that same level of peace of mind, yeah.
Speaker 3:Then there's no issue as far as settling down, getting married or whatever. But before that, when I was young, I was like no, I'm cool, I'll be the cool uncle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:I can see that though, yeah, I can see that so, but I would say that definitely changed, and honestly, my perspective just on life in general.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean, clearly. You know, when you're young and you just think everything is sweet, you think life is just a piece of cake, you know what I'm saying. I can just go hoop all day. I can just go hoop all day, get on the game, chill hoop. I bet you, like my motherfucking back is man. You know what I'm saying. These bills killing me. You know what I'm saying. So I just think that my perspective just on life Right, you know what I mean that definitely has changed throughout the years. But I would say the biggest change is how I view, you know, relationships and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:So I'm glad you said that. So, speaking of relationships, man, I was talking to my son Shout out to Jaylen About relationships and I was like, let me. I said let me explain something, Because I got to get the dad voice going on Let me explain something to you, son. This is the main thing you have to realize. In any fucking relationship, everybody just want to be happy. Yeah, if you really approach a relationship in that way, it will help you with all your decision making it will See what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So when you look at a situation. You say man, I'm about to call this motherfucker and see why the fuck she ain't answering her phone and woo, woo, woo, woo. Think about this. Is that going to make her feel happy? No, if anything, yeah, or her phone right there, let me go through this motherfucker. Is that going to make her feel happy? No, would it make you feel happy if a motherfucker went through your phone? Now the thing is like I told him. I said what we struggle with is we know what we did or we know what we would do. You see what I'm saying. So that's why, in my opinion I'm not a psychologist, I'm like 40 years away from it, but it's like that's why we, I believe, that's why we do what we do, and that's the struggle of helping somebody to stay happy because you're dealing with your own shit. Absolutely. See what I'm saying you are dealing with your own shit.
Speaker 3:So when this motherfucker don't answer the phone, you think about why you didn't answer the motherfucker's call before so look at it like this, right, like sometimes being in a relationship with somebody, it's almost like an exchangement, an exchange of traumas. It's like You're getting both of them, but it's like an exchange of traumas, right. And what I mean by that is that nobody's perfect. I'm not saying some people come into the situation with more baggage than others. You know what I'm saying. Sometimes y'all come to the situation with an equal amount of baggage. Sometimes the person might feel like I have no baggage, you have baggage. You know what I'm saying. You have baggage. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Now, what I'll say is that, when it comes to those aspects, I feel like that you have to think about, really, what are you willing to deal with? And that's just being 100. Because to expect for a person to expect to go into a situation with somebody else and automatically assume, I think, that they're going to always adhere to what you need and you're not giving that back, that's just not realistic In a relationship. It's not. So I feel like that you have to think about, well, what am I willing to work with this person and also be vulnerable enough to let that person know what you need to work on as well. That's the part right there, the vulnerable part it is, and that's scary. It's a mother fucker mother. You know what?
Speaker 1:I'm saying it's scary.
Speaker 3:But when you, when you come across that person that's willing to to take that leap with you, it's kind of like, okay, well, we both, you know like each other that much or what have you, so let's kind of see what it'll do. But I just think that when you get into those situations, some people will come into the I'm. Some people don't take the time that they need to be in an actually healthy relationship. Damn. And you have to understand and get a better idea of how you flowing before you get somebody else involved, because naturally you're going to make that person have to deal with whatever you had going on. Right, you got to try to take care of a little bit of that before you got involved.
Speaker 1:Hey, we got to take a break real quick. Hey, man, shout out to all the motherfuckers out there, man, that be going through that girl phone and be seeing all kind of dick pics and wondering where all these dicks come from, and they be like Mexican dick or white dick. And that's the shit's podcast, man. That's the shit For all erotic needs and fantasy needs. Please contact Cold Pleasures at colpleasurescom. Yeah, we're now back at the shit podcast, man.
Speaker 1:We started some shit too, man, because we're talking about relationships and knowing yourself and dick pics and all types of shit like that. So I really like where you was going with that man, because the whole concept of you coming in to a relationship and being vulnerable and shit. And so, like I went to a training, right, and in this training they asked they said list. They said list the three things that matter the most to you, right? So on my list was family, health and freedom. And then they asked the question out of those three things, what causes you the most stress? I was like all of them, all of them.
Speaker 1:And the lady, she was like that's because the shit that you care about the most is the same shit that stresses you out. Yeah, you see what I'm saying, absolutely, because you fucking care. Yeah, you see what I'm saying. So when you talk about coming into a relationship and you making yourself vulnerable to somebody else but also taking on somebody else's shit, it's like that's the scary part about it. It is Because it's like, man, I like you enough, you make me feel peaceful or you bring me some type of peace, but at that same time, I have to be vulnerable and be like. This is how I feel about shit. Now I just gave you some type of ammo that, if you ever wanted to kind of like, fuck me over.
Speaker 3:Well, let's pause right there. That's the problem, right there, right there. When you view vulnerability as ammunition for your partner, right then y'all ain't a war, right, and you know I'm saying a battle. So, like you already coming into it with like a mind state of, uh, you know you're gonna put this on my that's, to be honest, it's like I know we think about that. Yeah, when you think about it in totality, that's the wrong mentality to have.
Speaker 3:If you're truly going to be vulnerable with somebody, it is because it's like you can't say I'm gonna be vulnerable, but in the same breath you might use this against me, right? That defeats the purpose of being vulnerable. If you really feel that way, then don't be vulnerable. I'm just saying like, and I can I get it cuz I'm not exempt. You know what I'm saying. I just think about shit like that, but I feel like when situations like that, when it comes to vulnerability and taking those risks and whatnot, it's a risk either way. G and what I mean by that is that for most of my adulthood I was single. Okay, if I'm being honest, I've probably been in only for real, like two adult relationships. Okay, but for a nice period of time almost a decade I was single.
Speaker 3:Okay, Now the good part of that was that it definitely gave me time to learn myself Like important, why my traumas, why I didn't like shit how I am, why I'm this, why I'm that? I had a whole damn near decade to figure that shit out. I got into a relationship when I was 30 and you know that was situation. It made me realize like, okay, I could be in a relationship for real, not with this person, right?
Speaker 1:there. No, it's like this one, not this motherfucker right here.
Speaker 3:Right, but I can do it. You're saying so, but on the flip side to that too, the con of that is that because I was single for so long, it took me a little bit longer to adjust.
Speaker 3:You see what I'm saying, because I got used to just dealing with myself Right At my leisure, how I wanted to do it, doing what you want to do. But when I found somebody I care about, I want to be with, I had to realize, oh shit, it ain't just about me, about me, I'm used to just being about me, right? You see what I'm saying, right? So it's pros and cons on each side. You know what I'm saying. Do I regret taking that much time off on relationships? No, because, like I said, it made me very secure in the man that I've become right. But on the flip side, it made me acknowledge, okay, you also got possibly stuck in some of your ways you see what I'm saying and that's not always conducive to a fully healthy relationship. You got to realize like, hey, I got to make some adjustments. I can't expect to have give and take when I'm not giving. I'm still willing to be in that space that I was when I was just single. Right, you stuck on that one photo.
Speaker 1:Exactly. You stuck on that one photo, not realizing hey, I've elevated. You know what I'm saying, so I'll say that too. That's man, bro, that's super dope. And I was also talking to somebody today, man, I was like man, like I wonder how different we would be if our parents had access to therapy. You know what I'm saying Because you think about the shit that's been passed on to us, not just like I don't want to say it like certain stuff, like whatever stuff that's in your family, shit that's just running your family, but you think about the emotional parts that's been transferred from grandfathers to fathers to sons, your family's culture Right your family's culture, like the shit that we did and the shit that you don't discuss.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Literally your family's culture G. That's crazy as fuck. Like, when you think about like, if I tell you shit, that you know what I'm saying. How my family did you black, nigga, that's not what we did, right? You know what I'm saying. Some stuff might be similar because we black, you know what I'm saying, but every single family has a different culture. Yeah, and it's certain shit. You think about culture. That's shit that's passed down, right.
Speaker 1:Generation to Like my son. Man he was. I'm not putting him on blast, but he was just like hey, he was like man dad. You know, sometimes I just kind of feel like I just feel better when I know I can control. I have to have control over everything. And it's man, man, god, I'm telling you it's so crazy because I was like fuck, I was thinking the same fucking way at your age, you know what I'm saying, and I didn't even tell you to think like this. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:That's genetic. You gave that to him. That's fucking. I'm sorry, son, you know what I'm saying. You got that honest, but I think about that and I'm like but I think about old photos connecting the dots having a purpose.
Speaker 1:So me connecting the dots having a purpose, so me having that conversation and being able to say, hey, you shouldn't think like that. And I can tell you that you shouldn't think like that from experience. You see what I'm saying, because you got it from me. You see what I'm saying. I'm saying that's from experience. Don't think like that, because the thing is like I said everybody just wants to be happy. That's it. If you go off of that concept alone, if you start, if that's where you started, everybody just wants to be happy.
Speaker 3:That's it and that's all. That's a fact, and I also feel like, when it comes to that control aspect, what's funny is I will always say, the more you try to be in control or the more you are in control, the more you're actually losing control Like the motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying, because you have to understand that in no life will you be able to control every aspect of it. Not at all. It's not realistic, especially a woman, especially when you're talking about relationships Shit, especially when you talk about relationships. So when you think about it in that light, it's like no, the best, sometimes the best way to be in control is be willing to give up some control, like that's just be honest. If you want to, if you really want to try to get what you want from the situation, you have to be willing to let go of something right, and a lot of times we control is a very safe place because you controlling, controlling it you know what's going to happen.
Speaker 1:I feel secure because I know exactly what's going to happen.
Speaker 3:Exactly, but we be hesitant to give up some of that control because you don't know what's going to happen. Flip side something beautiful, great can happen, and some bullshit can happen, but ain't that the beauty of taking a risk?
Speaker 1:Well, it depends on who you talk to. Shout out to Van Dool, right, it depends on who you talk to. God damn it, I fucking hate the Timberwolves. I mean, like that's a damn good point, man, because it's that thought of, it's that thought of not knowing. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You feel unknown G You're way out here partying, I don't know what you're doing. But here's the beauty of it. You can think to yourself, you can just tell yourself nothing's happening. You know what I'm saying. Or you can go with the words oh man, she got the fuck full dicks. All types of shit.
Speaker 3:The most extreme shit, like shit that she's never even done before. Y'all ain't together. She ain't around now. She's doing the most outrageous shit, right?
Speaker 1:you know what I'm saying, so it's like it's all about. Still. It goes back to you controlling you, yeah, and showing them your narrative and you know what's crazy.
Speaker 3:The one thing that is the opposite of control is the thing that's needed most in relationships. It's trust. This motherfucker Period, that's like that's the opposite of control. Right, you can't control trust, because if you control it, you can't trust it. Y'all heard this shit. You know what I'm saying. You have it. So it's like there's nothing to trust, right, I'm doing this, right? So that's control and trust don't really go together a lot of times.
Speaker 1:Hey man, we gotta take a break. Man, Shout out to the motherfuckers out there that hey man, fuck all that. You heard what the fuck you just said. Hey man, that's a soundbite. Goddamn it, it's the Shits Podcast. Man, it's the Shits.
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Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We are now back at the Shits Podcast and we out here. Hey y'all. Let me tell y'all something. We're here chilling with my man, el Gordon man, so I gotta put this out there. So I've been a fan of this man for years because he dropped project after project, and I'm even a bigger fan now because y'all heard what this man said. This man is a motherfucking motivational coach. You're probably going to be a therapist at some point in time.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying One of my life goals.
Speaker 1:Connecting the fucking dots, bro. How can I put this so like, like, I think about one of the things for me that has changed since I've gotten older is the whole concept of how we look at possessions. Possessions like yeah, but you spoke on it too like giving up that control and just trusting you know what I'm saying or being able to realize that the person that you with is human.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's kind of like they got needs and wants too, you know what I'm saying and that's what makes that person that person. That's what makes that person that person, that's what drew you to that person. You know what I'm saying. So, like nowadays, man, I start to think more about the importance of connections. You know what I'm saying. And then I think, when people start to really think about the importance of connections, you start to realize why people do certain things. So like I think it's the most awesome thing, like when you really really break shit down, for somebody to send you a text that says good morning or good night. That's just kind of like damn this motherfucker was thinking about you.
Speaker 1:Like you was one of the first things this motherfucker thought about when they got up. You see what I'm saying. So when you start to think about shit like that, that's a fucking connection it is you get what I'm saying. Or for somebody to just reach out to you and be like man, I just seen what was up with you, bro. Yeah, that's a motherfucking connection and I started to think about that's the shit that people should really be focusing on, because when you have those connections with people, I think that trust builds up more, because you started to have that feeling like I don't think you were fucking your own. You know so, or I'm not right. I don't think about it because I'm going to trust that you wouldn't. You know what I'm saying. It's not going to cross my mind. So it's just like the older I get, it's a beautiful thing, man. I look back on some of my old photos too and I'd be like this nigga was wild.
Speaker 3:Like straight up, like. But you know what? You remember that episode of like Dave Chappelle, when he did like it was three days, yeah, and they're like 18. Yeah, sam had 20-something then, him in his 30s, even though it was funny and whatnot. But that's kind of like a snapshot as well, even though he made a skit out of it and whatnot. But he was just kind of explaining like he's been like three different people in his life though so far, and if you can't say that you've been a different person quote unquote in your life, then you really haven't made any movement.
Speaker 1:You haven't progressed, you haven't evolved?
Speaker 3:You haven't. And then like, even with relationships, right, you know, like it's a beautiful thing you can find somebody that you can grow and progress with, right, but that takes a lot of patience, understand, communication, effort. I heard somebody say this, might maybe a week or two ago I don't even comment on it, but I had a whole for dialogue. I heard about it, okay, I mean. But I had a whole full dialogue in my head about it. You know what I mean. But it was a woman. She was just like well, no, at this point, nigga got to take me as I am, I ain't changing for nobody, this is just how I am, blase, skip. And I ain't, you know, sitting there trying to say nothing about women, because I've heard niggas say the same shit too. Right, but you're going to be single.
Speaker 3:That was my first initial thought. Like you're telling me that. You're saying, like, take me as is, and there's no real room for that. When you think about sharing your life with somebody, right, you know what I mean, unless you're going to have a just very subservient or submissive partner where it's like, okay, whatever you say, right. But when she said that, you know what I'm saying it I'm like that's weak. But when she said it, I don't know why I struck a nerve with it, because I just felt like that was a very I felt like that was a very trauma based statement and I was like you, saying it out loud, like you, so loud and wrong you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:You put a stamp on it.
Speaker 3:You want this shit like a badge on it take me as I am, take me as I am. And so, like I legit, you know I was like that's not realistic.
Speaker 3:It's realistic if you saying you want to be by yourself, right, for the rest of your life. You know what I'm, but if you're talking about building something with somebody, you can't say that, because what if that one thing, or what if it's something about you that can legit? You're telling me that you're going to always choose you over what you have going Right, and what that means is that you're not willing to sacrifice what it is that you say that you want in that relationship or that situation. So I just like. When I heard it, I was like I don't like that, because you're saying that Take me as I am, I'm not changing, that's that.
Speaker 1:So I agree with you. The only thing I don't agree with is the whole word sacrifice, Because I think when you say sacrifice, I think that at some point in time resentment has the opportunity to come in. I prefer the word collaboration. I say sacrifice. I'm going to tell you why?
Speaker 3:Okay, because it's real. It's real when you think about being with somebody for the long haul, for real, right, right. It might be times when you are damn bad that your wife will have to sacrifice, sacrifice what I ain't saying. I have dignity or no shit like that.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, I'm just saying Bitch, make it up there, I ain't saying nothing like that, but you got to think about it.
Speaker 3:If y'all used to have an imbalance and now that balance is thrown off, it naturally becomes an imbalance, right? And the person that is carrying the most weight of that imbalance they have to sacrifice. They might have to give up something to try to maintain the balance of what they've lost in their partner, and the reality of it is that works on both sides. So the reason I say I don't mean sacrifice in a negative way, I just mean it in a real way, like, even when you think about the transference of emotion, what are you willing to sacrifice, what are you willing to give up to make this work? Because some of the stuff that you're coming in with. If I got a luggage bag and in my luggage bag I got some fresh polos and jewelry ones, but then I got some dirty drawers that I like, right, I can't say, oh no, I'm going to keep these dirty drawers, I got to throw them out.
Speaker 1:I got to throw the dirty. I got to sacrifice my dirty drawers, even though I might love my dirty drawers.
Speaker 3:Right, I have to sacrifice them for the betterment of what I'm trying to do. If my partner like nigga, these dirty drawers stink Right Like they funky, right you gonna keep them. It's fucking up what we got going.
Speaker 1:So I hear what you're saying and listening to that, I think about this what if that sacrifice does not make you happy or does not make her?
Speaker 3:happy, then then it's. It shouldn't be a sacrifice. Sacrifice should only come if there's a give and take. You can't say I'm sacrificing and we both feel shitty. What's the point? That's why I said collaboration. But let me see. But I guess I'm looking at it from the standpoint of where, if you are with somebody for the long haul, it might be times where y'all can't collaborate. It might be times where one of the people in the situation might have to hold the weight.
Speaker 1:Okay, I ain't saying forever.
Speaker 3:Right. But anything can happen, life can happen Right, and so like, during that time it might be like no, I'm hurting, or whatever. Whatever might happen when you're with somebody for the long haul, for real, it's not going to always be 50-50. No, I totally agree with that. Yeah, and sometimes y'all it might you want it to be there 80-20. Might be 80-20.
Speaker 1:Sometimes it might be 100-0. Right and you can't say that in a sacrifice, right? No, that's true. You see what I'm saying, that's true.
Speaker 3:I don't mean it in a negative light.
Speaker 1:You see what I'm saying. It is ups and downs. I might be up and I might be like bet it's whatever.
Speaker 3:I might be down, I might need you to hold me. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, so that's what I mean by sacrifice. I don't mean it in a negative way, like you got to you know, whatever, but it's just more along the lines how much are you willing to do to make this work? You see what I'm saying To work with me down to work with me.
Speaker 1:That's what I mean by that. Yeah, no I feel you and, and, and I think like cause I've had, I've had that conversation with people numerous times and it's like how do you, how do you test that? You know what I gauge that at the beginning of a relationship, you can't, you can't.
Speaker 3:Like you have to go through it Unless you don't just do pranks on a nigga and shit like, hey, I'm about to see how this nigga's gonna respond.
Speaker 1:I lost my job Right.
Speaker 3:But you know what Some people do, that Right.
Speaker 1:You got your job. Yeah, you gonna hold me down, right? Some people do that. Where you going, you leaving oh damn right. Some people do that. Where you going, you leaving oh damn prank. It was just a prank, right? Hey, y'all, we gotta take a break real quick. Hey, yo shout out to all the motherfuckers out there man that's making true, true sacrifices and got their ass put out the house and that's nothing to them.
Speaker 2:And now I ain't gonna draw, hey man, it's the shh, but I can't say that you know yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:We are now back with the shits podcast. Hey, y'all check it out. I've learned a lot in this. Motherfucker. You know what I'm saying for real. I'ma change his name to Professor Ill Gordon. You know what I'm saying? Um, hey man, let everybody know when the project is out, where they can find it. All that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man. The latest project, Illustrious, is out on all streaming outlets right now, also Bandcamp and my website, barsondeckcom, just dropped two videos. That's also on my website, ok and my soapbox. I got a couple shows coming up as well, on the 25th and the 26th of June at the Promotory and at Lyrics on Libation. So you know, just trying to stay active. Man and I got a couple of new projects coming up as well. My goal is to drop like four this year, so we'll see.
Speaker 1:Man, I'm proud of you, man, real shit Straight up.
Speaker 2:Hey man, I tell y'all.
Speaker 1:I tell y'all, man, like I'm a fan of real hip-hop, real rap, raw, real rap, raw, real rap, raw. That's my man. Hey, I'm going to leave y'all with this, just something for y'all to think about.
Speaker 2:Think about this.
Speaker 1:There is someone that's hoping you make it home. If you have that thought in your head as you leave your house and you go through your day, I can guarantee you that will help you make certain decisions. There is someone that is looking forward for you to get home. Whether it be your kid, whether it be your wife, whether it be your dog, whether it be the bum that you always get $2 to, or whatever the case may be, there is somebody that is looking forward to you coming home and those right. There are connections. Those are powerful, motherfucking connections. Also, think about the concept of old photos. Think about where you came from. Think about what you've been through to get where you're at. And there was a quote that I had read. I'm trying to make sure I get it right and it went. I am not what happened to me. I am what I chose to become. So think about that?
Speaker 1:I am not. You are not what happened to you. You are what you chose to become, because some people got their ass whooped and they became pussies. Some people got their ass whooped and they became beasts. They became straight fighters. Some people got into basketball games and sucked and got booed and all kinds of shit and they just quit some people and made them stars. I'm not talking about the fucking Timberwolves, so fucking pissed off at the Timberwolves. Anyway, like I always tell, y'all make fans, not followers. Followers get you clout, but fans get you work.
Speaker 1:Shout out to the family Joey Bryce, jalen, crystal Smoke Dog. Shout out to B family Joey Bryce, jalen, crystal Smoke Dog. Shout out to B Carrington. Shout out to my man, decker Durst. Shout out to my man Wish. Shout out to my man, mark G. Anybody that has supported the Shiz Podcast man, I truly do appreciate it. B, I know I'm going to see you next week. I know you're going to have the tea for us and y'all make sure y'all get in tune with my man, ill Gordon, because he's got dope shit. Y'all, make sure y'all get in tune with my man Wish. Anything that Decker Durst put his hands on, y'all make sure y'all get in tune with that shit too, and man, we will holler at y'all.