The S.H.I.T.T.S Podcast
The S.H.I.T.T.S Podcast
Crafting Authentic Hip-Hop While Raising Kids
Join us as we sit down with Griffen, a dynamic artist from the Chicago music scene, who shares his unique journey of balancing the demands of his creative career with the responsibilities of fatherhood in today’s digital age. Hear Griffin’s candid reflections on the challenges of parenting amidst the pervasive influence of social media and the importance of setting technology boundaries for his children. This episode underscores the crucial need to place family at the forefront, particularly in a society where fathers often face significant hurdles.
Griffen opens up about the critical role of mentorship in the music industry, particularly for young artists grappling with the pressures of capitalism and social media. Through heartfelt anecdotes, Griffen highlights the importance of savoring life’s moments, maintaining cultural integrity, and fostering genuine connections within the hip-hop community. Nostalgia abounds as we reminisce about the early days of Chicago hip-hop, Griffen’s formative influences, and the iconic figures like Ice Cube and The DOC who paved the way for his musical journey.
We also dive into the complexities of authenticity in the hip-hop industry and the impact of influential artists on Griffen’s career. From the dynamics of Chicago’s local music scene to creating authentic hip-hop experiences, Griffin shares valuable insights and lessons learned. Discover the power of positive thinking, the significance of nurturing young talent, and the importance of supportive environments in shaping our communities. Tune in for a must-listen episode brimming with wisdom, passion, and a deep love for hip-hop culture.
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Hey man, check it out y'all. This week, man, we got a very, very special guest to the podcast. Hey man, this dude has been putting it down on the Chicago music scene as far as an emcee, writer, curator and just all around just doing what the fuck you got to do to help the scene prosper. So, with no further ado, I want y'all to put y'all motherfucking hands together and show some love for the one, the only, griffin. Y'all Appreciate it.
Speaker 3:Thanks for having me, though, man, it was good.
Speaker 2:No problem, man. Thank you for coming on. I appreciate it, bro, all day. So, before we go any further, I got to give some shout-outs to some people that's making some shit happen. Shout-out to the Ownership club on soulowner 6.3 fm. Every sunday, you can find me on there from 9 pm to 11 pm with the ownership club on soulowner 6.3 fm.
Speaker 2:And also I want to put this out there too, because I think this shit is very, very, very important. Um, for those who feel like they need people to talk to and they need some type of therapy, and you feel like it's not affordable, there is a service, there's an organization that offers free mental health support 24 7. If you need, if you feel like you need it, call this number 708-524-2582. Once again, that's 708-524-2582. They are offering 24 7 mental health support. Whether you need health support, whether you need to come in, whether you need to talk on the phone, I think that shit is very, very fucking important, man, real talk. So, griffin, on the podcast, man, we like to do a check-in with our guests and since you are the guest this week, man, how your week been.
Speaker 3:I can't complain. It's been a great week. There we go.
Speaker 2:I gotta compliment you, man on the merch man like that, hey, y'all check that shit out little anti everything, anti everything, fuck everything bro anti clout, anti clicks anti you, nigga but I also wanna ask this.
Speaker 2:I also wanna ask this question too, cause I ask people you're an artist, you're a curator, you're a writer, you got all this stuff going on. So, on the artistic side, you're an artist, you're a curator, you're a writer, you got all this stuff going on. So, on the artistic side, you always working on something right All the time. But the question I'm getting ready to ask you is about yourself what are you working on? As far as Griffin? What are you working on? Not on the art stuff, but just as yourself.
Speaker 3:Shit. Being a better dad Gee, that's an everyday thing like my kids is more important than this music shit. So I'm working on that shit so is it is it difficult. Uh, yeah, life is difficult, you know, yeah, and I feel you, I feel you.
Speaker 2:I'm a father myself, so it's so much that you got to go through, especially being-.
Speaker 3:My daughter just started high school. Bro, like yeah, it's difficult. We a week into this shit. It's just like yeah, all right, roll something up.
Speaker 2:Please roll something up. I know you need it, man. It's a whole new world, man, okay, oh, hey, god bless you, bro. God bless you, hey, man. I got a 10 year old, I got a 10 year old and I got a 10 year old daughter and at 10 I'm like you know, I'm saying you just think about it. So I have one in high school.
Speaker 3:I command you, bro this is crazy trying to balance the social media influence and all that is going on with the friends and the shit and trying to like keep grounded and shit navigate through that because they getting bombarded with that shit at a ridiculous rate. It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2:And they keep the phone in their hand. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:They keep the phone From early on because I saw that shit you see online a lot of times like kids go off killing their grandmama and shit, doing all kinds of stuff Like from jump. When they was shorty they didn't even get phones for a minute okay and then it's always been restrictive. Like you already know, it's gonna be times you're not gonna have this shit right form a dependency on this phone and shit and have some real issue because I took it away like right, you know that's smart though we was on that from the beginning, like I didn't want the device yeah shit to take over and shit.
Speaker 3:And plus, like the influence, the tiktok, all this shit. Like they get bogus ass facts that ain't facts on there and they believe that shit. So I spent a whole lot of time like fixing tiktok shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, straighten them out, like what. Where you hear that shit at like youtube right, block that dude. Like don't watch this goofy ass streamer no more, and shit. You know what I'm?
Speaker 3:saying yeah, y'all the wrong and shit. So trying to navigate that shit is the most difficult shit with the kids shit now. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. That shit's crazy that's love, bro.
Speaker 2:That's love like real talk. Like, like I said, man, like I feel people need to understand, like being a father in this society where you got so much shit against you, you know, I'm saying like you gotta fight for the shit that's going against you already, but you also gotta put yourself out there and make sure that your daughter is straight. See what I'm saying. So, like you said, you gotta think about this man.
Speaker 3:There's kids popping up missing. It's all kind of shit that people aren't paying attention to. Where I'll be worried all the time, like when we were shorties, you could hop on your bike. We was all over the city and just ride. She can't leave the block, bro. I'll be like where the fuck like?
Speaker 4:where you at, where you going like you know I'm finna apple.
Speaker 2:Tag your clothes, your bag like as you should out here, bro, man, I got a I got a 16 year old son too, and I'm damn near like that with him, bro you gotta be like I did.
Speaker 3:Uh, I worked at the audi home for a couple years, okay, mentoring the youth or whatever. So this is like the age group where I'm looking at my daughter she's 14 and I'm entering 12, 13, 14. That's in the Audi home. They locked up for shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, so knowing like these, the niggas you in school with right now and these niggas, is goofy, super goofy, just gone off goofy. It's like clout has taken over crack as the worst epidemic period. It's the new drug, it it's the most highly addictive drug out here, bro, and it's clout chasers all over. But that shit, like the clout shit, is a real problem. Where you got niggas, you'll film yourself or your boys doing crime because you finna get like the child niggas, finna get years. And you was really thinking about the likes and shit and it's trying to go viral for you and shit.
Speaker 3:It's like how the hell is that worth it?
Speaker 2:cuz like I don't understand that shit, but it's worth it to them. That's the society is told like. That's the society has told them. You know what I'm saying? I think that the sadder part about all that is when you see the adults that fall into the same fucking problem. You get what I'm saying and then you start to feel like y'all the reason why these motherfuckers act like this because we got too many weak-minded ass adults out here.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying? Like, that's just the bottom line. That's a lot of kid ass, grown ass kids. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:yeah, with uh kid mentalities, that's grown ass people so, with that being said, I want y'all to think about what I said earlier. If you feel like you need that mental support, call that fucking number, because I feel like it's a lot of adults that didn't have that growing up and they just had to adapt and they never had a motherfucker to talk to, but somebody actually tell them the shit that they're doing is goofy as fuck and they need help. You know what I'm saying. And then, uh, how can I put this? A dysregulated child turns into a dysregulated adult you know what I'm saying who ends up having a kid, and it's a cycle just keeps fucking keeps fucking going and going and going.
Speaker 3:Discipline issue Like motherfuckers. Don't got discipline. No more, bro, Not at all you got. You got no impulse control and no discipline and shit. You know what? I'm saying yeah. Whatever you want right now, I gotta go get it, maybe on his best life. Shit when it's like best life means a long one. You know what I'm saying? That you had all the shit you needed Y'all on some Best Life tonight and that ain't the lick. You know what I'm saying? Right, but they convinced that it is.
Speaker 2:That's a t-shirt right there. Best Life is a long one Straight up.
Speaker 3:I mean getting old sucks, but getting old is dope.
Speaker 2:I mean, isn't that the goal though?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's supposed to be. But for to go out. It's like the what? Movie was that uh, top of the world mom with a motherfucker um public enemy or whatever it was uh shit, I'm talking about this shit with uh, uh, the old shit, the old black and white joy, yeah, yeah, top of the world, mom, public enemies, so like, but that's like the, the mentality of motherfuckers, like man, tonight it's all about. Tonight I'm finna, do this shit big tonight right niggas is not worried about next Wednesday.
Speaker 2:Right, you only live once, but you only die once too.
Speaker 3:Goofy ass nigga. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you only live once, so savor the motherfucker. Don't blow the motherfucker, because it's only one time. That don't make sense, g.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, but a lot of motherfuckers ain't saying what you saying and that's the problem. You know I'm saying everybody ain't saying what you're saying and so many motherfuckers they hear that line and they just agree with it and they run with it a whole different way, like it's. It's different perspectives to everything you know I'm saying and it just seems like with the whole social media thing, we're only giving one perspective, you know I'm saying, and dependent on how many likes, well, that's because they got capitalism, we in that society, so it's corporate run, right?
Speaker 3:so the shit we're given is the shit that gets their bottom line hit every day. You know I'm saying what's going to sell the most shit this quarter, this day, this whatever, like that's the system we in, so it's fucked up because it affects the mentality of people in it, right, you know I'm saying so, you, we, capitalist, and shit and that's shit. The problem with capitalism is there's ceiling. You just got to keep like if a company like Apple they made more money than anybody in the history of making money. Right.
Speaker 3:And if they don't make more money next year, they fail it. Right, nigga, how Y'all made more money last year than anybody ever did, but if you don't make more money than that next year, you fucked up, and that's capitalism. And that's fucked up where it's like y'all a trillion dollar company, bro, and you still be like we need to lay off some niggas. How the fuck for right, cause we ain't make more money in quarter two than block, like all this. That's capitalism. And that's the problem.
Speaker 2:Where there's no, no cap, no limit and shit you know, ayo, we gotta take all the motherfuckers out there. That's greedy as fuck and don't even realize the beauty that's right there in front of your stupid ass. And that's the Shits Podcast man. It's the Shits.
Speaker 1:What up y'all? It's your boy Monsoons, the Rod from the Ownership Club and the Shits Podcast. Just letting y'all know about the hottest after party going on every Sunday at the Hideaway 12, 45, burnham Avenue in Calumet City, Illinois. Every Sunday, 10 pm to 2 am. It's the shit.
Speaker 2:We're back at the shit's podcast. We either shooting shit, starting some shit or picking up what shit left off hey y'all I got or just being the shit. Exactly, I got the phenomenal Griffin in the house, man and yo. So, man, I love the way you broke all that down, bro, earlier about the capitalism, about the social media, about the mental health, and I like the fact that you talked about you worked with the youth and you working with the youth. You know what I'm saying Because I look at it like with music music especially with the Chicago Sing the youth still need that fucking mentoring, bro. You see what I'm saying. Like the youth and music still need that mentoring. Like I've ran across people that be like man I heard your album from 20 plus years ago. You know I'm saying as shorties and then they see you out in the street and it's like you are. The people like yourself are the ones that's keeping this culture thriving. You know what I'm saying. So my question to you is how were you first introduced to Chicago hip hop?
Speaker 3:Chicago hip hop specifically. Yeah, chicago hip hop. I mean that's because technically, like, hip-hop is more than just rap shit, right. So just by going to parties and being around, hip-hop shit, that's chicago hip-hop. You know what I'm saying? Like being around niggas break dancing and shit okay that was like shorty, like from. I don't even remember a time when there wasn't hip hop involved that type of shit. You know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying Like the first.
Speaker 3:The first hip hop song I heard was Duh Ha by fucking uh rapping Duke.
Speaker 2:Rapping Duke. I remember that shit yeah.
Speaker 3:Like my dad. He was working. Was he white? Who Rapping Duke? Was he I have? He was trying to sound like fucking John Wayne, yeah.
Speaker 5:You know what I'm saying, so I don't know if he was.
Speaker 3:I have no idea, but I was at. I think I was like six or seven years old and my dad used to work at WVON. Okay. Which is a black radio station, Voice of the Negroes. That's like one of the. It was one of the biggest.
Speaker 2:I didn't know it stood for that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, w.
Speaker 2:Wait, what was it based out of?
Speaker 3:Here Based out of Chicago, chicago WVON. That shit been out Boy. Hey, you need to do some knowledge on your own shit. I got you Boy like what. Wvon. It's on the south side of shit, the studios or whatever, but that shit's been there since I want to say like the 60s, whoa. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:I got work to do of the negroes is the uh, the name of the shit, violinos, the college or whatever, but he used to work there. Uh, he was a dj on the shit, but sometimes I would go to work with him okay and it was a janitor dude there that'd be there at night. He like yo check this out and he played this record for me and I was tweaking off this shit like what the fuck is like what is this like?
Speaker 3:right, but it was hilarious and it was dope. But that was like my introduction to that and to me that's chicago hip-hop, because I was in chicago when I got exposed to all of that shit. You know what I'm saying, so that's all a part of it, like the vibe, the feeling or whatever you know. So I wouldn't even say like when I started rapping as well, or when I've seen niggas from here rapping, or nah, because it was break dancers, it was marks with the spikes looking like breaking tools, shit, like out here on the we had the linoleum pull it out.
Speaker 3:Un on the corner, we had the linoleum Pull it out, unroll the joint, breaking on the corner, like all that shit. You know what I'm saying. So that was from again like seven years old, so real quick. Beach Street or Breaking Breaking is bullshit. Beach Street is the actual shit. You know what? I mean Like, if you want to know what hip hop was like, then it's for in beat street. Yeah, breaking was like a white savior complex.
Speaker 2:Somebody got to come in and you know that whole that, that shit like I want to say, like I always felt like it was more pop. It was more pop hip-hop.
Speaker 3:You know, I'm saying like well, it's pop breakdance whatever you want to call it's hollywood and shit like beat street is an authentic hip-hop story, yeah, whereas breaking like follows the whole writers. Uh, what is that shit called the writer's journey or hero? Journey yeah.
Speaker 3:So the chick, the white chick, that comes in the middle, she's like the hero. It's her story. This shit is not about hip-hop it's about the white chick going from the uh, the white world or whatever and doing this street dance shit, like that's what that whole shit was. It was her movie. I don't look at that shit like some hip-hop shit. We was the backdrop to her story, whereas B Street was a story about these dudes.
Speaker 4:that's in it you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:With spit and the whole it was about that shit and it just felt organic bro. That's how we would have told the story, whereas if you look at breaking, that's how some rich white motherfuckers would tell the story. They gotta come in and save these youth. That's in trouble when they, you know, I'm saying like all that goofy ass shit, like and I don't knock breaking like it for what it was like.
Speaker 3:It put uh hip-hop in front of audiences that normally wouldn't have seen the shit, true, true, so I mean elements of it, because it was still mostly the corny side Of the shit. But who ain't wanna be Turbo with the broom? That's what I was about to say. Who ain't wanna do that Like Ozone.
Speaker 3:Later now we looking like this nigga had on Half top shirts and the crazy, but back then it was like this motherfucker Cool as shit. You know what I'm saying. It was like Now you're like Rest in peace, boogaloo and shit. That's definitely it. Long live that nigga. Do you realize?
Speaker 2:how many motherfuckers you could blackmail if you showed pictures of the shit they was wearing?
Speaker 3:No, you can't, because the shit Ice-T had on in that movie was O-C. He's all right. You know what I'm saying? That shit ain't going to work. Niggas had on some wild shit in the Breaking movie.
Speaker 2:It was suspect.
Speaker 3:Borderline like a motherfucker, Like that shit. Yeah, that shit was crazy, it was real suspect.
Speaker 2:And then I think about even some of the scenes. Man, like you know, motherfuckers meeting up in the alley like all tough and shit to dance. And every time I watch this shit I be like that's the West Side Story influence.
Speaker 3:That's when you get into the Hollywood side, where they coming up with oh, let's do this scene like this Right and they go. West Side Story and then they break that down. So you see that's really West Side Story. Influence to that. Yeah.
Speaker 4:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:Yeah, Again, breaking was the Hollywood version, so it's funny that you say that because it makes me think about how the shit was just recycled.
Speaker 2:So you, what's the fuck is this shit with Christopher Short Columbus Short in it, the dancing movie Christopher Short Columbus Short, chris Brown, what the fuck was that? Stomp the Yard, yeah them Like. And I always tell motherfuckers I do not like dance movies because like the shit is not realistic. I be feeling like who the fuck meets up, who plans a battle to meet up, and just dance.
Speaker 3:They need an excuse for these choreographers to do some shit, like they didn't hire choreographers to do shit. Now they gotta have make up scenes for that to happen. It's all like that's a skeleton, that's a blueprint or something. They cookie cutter that shit out.
Speaker 2:It just come off as real corny to me. It always felt fucking corny to me but, like you said, b Street, it was like, hey, that shit felt like I mean, I guess, for lack of better words, it just felt real.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying it just felt like you get a real idea of what it was like in the 80s to be in the hip hop. Shit, yeah, in the 80s, late 80s, and shit was just like that. Yeah, so you got to take a glimpse into the lives of these, uh, three or four characters right and they roll. You know I'm saying you got the young dude mad.
Speaker 3:His brother ain't letting them do shit yeah, they got they crew, whatever you got the graffiti battles, yeah, then these the dancers and shit, and they on their own thing. So it's like you got a glimpse in the actual, the mentality of like this some everyday shit, like people live this shit for real, like be on that.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying and also with you being a curator, I would like to point out you also had the aspect of the dude that was putting shows together or trying to put shows together.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying, so, like it was, like all that's what I mean like that movie represented all of the elements of this shit we doing, yeah, except that it didn't really get into the media side because it didn't even exist yet. But I'm just saying like for what it was. For then it was like we touched on that movie, touched on all the elements of what hip hop encapsulated in this shit Exactly, whereas Breaking was the surface level shit.
Speaker 4:What it looked like outside.
Speaker 3:I don't even like when it came out. I was at the theater to see this shit. Like that. It wasn't nothing out like that right. Like this shit wasn't in theaters and it wasn't in your face like that like, especially for us.
Speaker 3:We didn't see that shit and hip-hop was some old secret society ass shit. So just having to be on that platform was dope. You know what I'm saying. Now, in hindsight, you look back like this shit was corny as shit and you could pick it apart all day, but it wasn't shit out like that right. Hats off to them for even taking a chance at doing that shit, because you know what I'm saying like there wasn't. No, you ain't know that shit was gonna make money or anything at the time it probably didn't make money like.
Speaker 3:I don't know what the box office was like on that shit, but they didn't know one way or the other there wasn't no guarantee that shit gonna slam dunk because it's hip hop, like now, where you put that shit in a commercial. Your shit gonna sell at that time they didn't know that you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:They felt like it was a fad. It ain't gonna be around next five years. Now you look up hip hop to celebrate it 50 fucking years. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:that scene with Turbo it would have been a fad. That shit wouldn't have did shit like you had to change it up nigga If motherfuckers kept rapping like that. Yeah it wouldn't have lasted long.
Speaker 2:But, put like this. At the time I don't even know if I'd say it was dope, it was new.
Speaker 3:That song particularly or.
Speaker 2:No, that song particularly.
Speaker 3:You never heard it. Right, that's what I mean, but it was still funny. It was like we are our Yankovic, like is this dope or is it just? It's hilarious and I fuck with, like you know we gotta take a break real quick.
Speaker 2:Hey, yo shout out to all the motherfuckers out there that start rapping and rapping like rapping duke and man. Get your goof ass out of here, man. Change your style like man. It's just podcast, it's the shit everybody.
Speaker 4:It's comedian stephanie robertson with the shits. Come check it out. You can follow me on instagram at stephanie underscore underscore robertson. I will see you there.
Speaker 2:Make sure to follow yeah, yeah, we are now back at the shits podcast and we're here. We got my man griffin in the house and we're just breaking down the evolution of rap, rap, da ha, ha, ha, ha ha ha come a long way, baby exactly, so can you remember the first venue you performed at?
Speaker 3:yep, so the first show I did was at saint xavier university. Okay.
Speaker 3:And I got paid $150 to do this. That's beautiful. How old were you when you asked? 13, 14. Oh, that's even better. And I took two of my homies with me and shit to do this shit and we didn't have like no songs, we were just freestylers and shit. So like, we freestyled the show. Now the problem was this was at a time when it was the house verse hip-hop shit, so it was a house-o-matic show, so the whole audience was all they had on hammer pants and sequence and shit.
Speaker 3:like with the polka dot with the whole because they were doing that shit. So it was like a dance thing, but we was opening up. I didn't know that shit though you know what I'm saying so we come out on some hippity hop shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:And these motherfuckers, like the crowd was not feeling that shit. You know what I'm saying that I was fuck, whatever. So we did our shit, we got off stage. But my man runs back on stage on some fuck house music and runs off the stage and shit. You know what I'm saying. I'm back, I'm talking to'm talking to this shit. She got my check. You know what I'm saying. It was a university, so they got budget or whatever.
Speaker 3:I'm getting a check and shit and I just see these motherfuckers running and they running. I get the check, I'm running, we running.
Speaker 3:Motherfuckers chasing us out the auditorium because this nigga shout out to malik and woody and shit. But yeah, that was the first shit I ever did and it was some. We just got it on a whim because I told him like yeah, I rap, yeah, I rap whatever. Like yeah, but we got this show we need to. They was trying to pay people, like they had a budget and they was trying to get it off yeah so I ended up.
Speaker 3:It was like some house dramatic, some shit. It was a house thing, you know what I'm saying and we came on some super hip-hop shit with the Beatties and the Peppermint Sticks and the fucking backpacks and shit Like the whole shit, and it was fun, but it could have ended bad, dangerous, dangerous. That was my first joint Shout out to St Xavier University and shit, that shit was cool.
Speaker 2:So what made you want to rap?
Speaker 3:The fact that you could cuss on a record. Honestly, that was the whole draw, like I heard ice cube when nwa dropped yeah dope man and I first started hearing those records and shit like I was like I want to do that shit like ice cube, the way he cussed like really it was all about that, yeah and that was like my intro to it was like it was just some old, out of the norm shit, like you're not supposed to do that.
Speaker 3:Like at the time, like you couldn't, like they was getting arrested for cussing on stage. Like you know what I'm saying with some shit, you couldn't, really can't do that shit now, dude. And I was just like everybody cussing, that's dope. Yeah, it's like I want to piss people off like that. You know what I'm saying. Like, and from that's when I started writing my own shit. Like the first shit I recorded was over DLC instrumentals from that first album. It's funky enough, no one can do it better than shit.
Speaker 3:Okay. Like those, my brother's a DJ, so he had equipment and shit. So I literally taped that, recorded the shit, put the wax on, grabbed the DJ mic or novel for the mic, because it was through the headphones, because if you plug the headphones, into the mic jack, you plug the headphones. Because if you plug the headphones, into the mic jack.
Speaker 3:You plug the headphones into the mic jack, you can talk through that shit. So I'm talking through the headphones, like I rap through the headphones over DLC instruments. That was like my first shit, but it was all inspired off hearing Ice Cube do Dope man and Gangsta Gangsta. I think that was like a B-side. It was like the 12 inch shit was Dope man and Gangsta Gangsta from them. It was just like both of them was dope as fuck too. I heard them shits like yo who the fuck is this dude like?
Speaker 2:and I wanna do that shit so you said two names, man, that really stood out to me. One of them is Ice Cube shout out to Knight for stealing my lighter the other one is the DOC, and I feel like to me both of them motherfuckers are phenomenal writers. What the fuck.
Speaker 3:Both of them motherfuckers are phenomenal writers. You said DOC and Ice Cube. Yeah, yes, no one can do it better still, like in my top ten rap albums of all time and shit, and it's ill because I got the email back and forth and DM with DOC and shit and that shit. One of the surreal moments, oh man, conversations with this nigga is like yo, cause he's definitely one of my favorite motherfuckers. Like I thought this nigga was the coldest motherfucker he was Like ever. Like he's cold.
Speaker 2:So I was going to ask you okay, do you think if he would have never got into that accident?
Speaker 3:where would the doc be placed as far as top 10 mcs? I'm saying if that shit never happened? And he because, like dude, that shit happened right after he got done recording the album type shit like it was like two weeks after the release that fucking album.
Speaker 3:You can listen to the album straight it, that shit is fucking incredible, except Beautiful but Deadly, but whatever it's at the end, so it don't really matter and shit. But everything else on that motherfucker is like, yeah, this shit is crazy, right, but he, I mean he would be like, look at where Snoop is, and he's Snoop's mentor that's a damn good point so it'd be like on some snoop shit, like he was the first motherfucker that dre was like this my solo nigga yeah you know, I'm saying everybody, like that it's like you got doc snoop m&m 50 cent.
Speaker 3:It's specific motherfuckers, dre done, touched pause. You know I'm saying it's like that, turned into like these are some of the most phenomenal motherfuckers you've ever heard because they don't write us.
Speaker 3:It was like ice cube, but in the group, but dlc like that's a motherfucker. Yeah, he was like yo, this motherfucking shit. So he would have been like I think that level because like the chronic, would have been a fucking dlc record, not a dr dre record, because he did a lot of writing on the way he was leaving easy and took doc with him yeah so the first shit they would have been on wouldn't have been like a dr dre record. That shit would have changed the trajectory a lot there.
Speaker 2:Probably wouldn't have been a snoop like that probably wouldn't have been a snoop.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying because if there was no chronic, no deep cover, if doc that's a damn good voice or whatever, and you're saying like snoop probably wouldn't even got that, look, because damn drake would have been producing doc second album type shit at that time. You know what I'm saying. It wouldn't have been producing Doc's second album type shit at that time. You know what I'm saying? It wouldn't have been no fucking Chronic.
Speaker 2:That's a.
Speaker 3:Because, if you think about it and listen to interviews, dr Dre said the DLC is the reason why he even did the Chronic. This nigga was the one telling him yo, you need to do an album. And I'm sure he's only doing that because, like nigga, I can't do it, like I can't fucking rap right now, right, so you got to do the shit. So if he could talk and all that shit, he wouldn't have been telling that, nigga, you need to do the album.
Speaker 3:He'd be like man lace me up, g, you did it yourself. I'm finna kill this shit. He'd have knocked that. We'd have had that. Nigga would have been on a Tupac run, bro, I feel Texas, yeah, dallas, nigga would have changed the whole landscape to West Coast hip hop and he kind of still did, because he was behind the scenes for Doggy Style. The sequencing so many motherfuckers, though.
Speaker 2:I mean, like he wrote for so many motherfuckers, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Mc Breed best album DLC. Ghost wrote that shit. That the new Breed album Just another clip into my AK and all them songs Like MC Breed. Coldest fucking record DLC the ghost. Writer For that shit. Look that shit up. The one where he got the song with Tupac. Yeah, gotta get mine DLC being all behind that bitch.
Speaker 3:Y'all Do the knowledge On that shit. I'm telling you I know this nigga. He was my favorite Fucking rapper at the time For a long time. You know what? I'm even off that I seen a nigga performing concert before he fucked the shit up. Okay, as a shorty, like I was at the motherfucking shit, like my brother took me to that shit. I'll never forget that shit. Didn't think when everybody was on tour with two live crew it'll be like a whole bunch of rap motherfuckers and two live crew like on every tour.
Speaker 2:Yeah, shit was crazy so so so is it safe to say that you come from an era where writing was very important. You know what I'm saying. Lyricism content was very important.
Speaker 3:I mean more than lyricism. It was originality. Okay, you could, because you take a motherfucker like Biz Markie. This nigga ain't a super lyricist? No, not at all. But he got his own lane. Niggas respect it and rock with what he own. This nigga doing songs called pick and boogers.
Speaker 3:I was about to say that you know what I'm saying like about some other shit, right like this shit is hilarious where you see later you got devin to do it's kind of on some biz marky shit but more talented and shit oh, he's cold, but I'm just saying on as far as that he could do songs, like I'm in the bathroom boo-booing because Biz Markie did doo-doo rap, Right Like that happened. So now there's oh, you could do that the same way where I'm like I ain't think about rap. So Ice Cube was cussing. I didn't know you could do that. Oh, you could do that. I'm finna do that.
Speaker 3:I'm about to do that shit, but uh, on some everybody had their own lane on some originality shit, yeah, so that's really what. It's not even about lyricism and who the rawest, like all. It's not about that shit at all g. It's about, like, your own personal flavor and how you let that shit shine out right, is attracted to it or not.
Speaker 3:You know I'm saying yeah it's not like I use the best words or I got the most metaphors of my shit's a quadruple entendreed Like dude. That shit's cool, but it ain't the like. It's really like. You know what I'm saying. Are you an original personality? Are you a motherfucker? I want to smoke one with Right.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. Right right, right, like that type of shit, and I think I think we got to take a break. Hey, hey, yo Shout out to all the motherfuckers Out there man that wrote their raps While they was sitting on the toilet and you really came up with that shit. It's the shit podcast y'all. It's the shit.
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Speaker 2:All right, we are now back for real. This time at the Shits Podcast. We're either shooting shit, starting some shit, or picking up what shit left off. We are in here with my man, griffin, breaking down a lot of shit, hip-hop-wise, like I said hey man, y'all go check out that motherfucking Daylight Soul album. Y'all go check out the motherfucking DOC album. If y'all not up on that, we we putting y'all up on it. One of the coldest albums to be made. The doc uh, no one can do it better. No one can do it better, and you brought up a very good point. If the doc did not have his accident, would there be a snoop dog?
Speaker 3:that's a very good question, bro. I mean, I'm not to say it wouldn't, because snoop is an incredible rapper and he was plugged in with warren g and he had his thing, but it wouldn't be, motherfucker, skip school for doggy style and shit like I think that would have happened with the dlc second record, right, you know what I'm saying. There wouldn't have been a need for the chronic to even happen, because dre would have had the doc already right when he does that throw and does the whole shit yeah, I'm saying so and a lot of
Speaker 3:the inspiration for the chronic happening was the DLC inspiring Dre to do it and giving him the confidence that he could do a dr Dre record cuz again. At that point he hadn't been done. Only my fucking doing that type of shit was Quincy Jones, when no producer records, right you know, saying it was this was this mc and so and so and dj so and so, like it was a team and it was a group and it was a whatever, but it wasn't. No, like I'm the producer and I'm finna, put out a gang of different rappers on my shit, but it's my album right like that wouldn't really that hadn't been done, as far as I know.
Speaker 2:At the point, at that point, you know I'm saying yeah, no, no, I agree, saying that also, it also makes no, I'm lying, maybe marley maul, but marley maul didn't even do in control till after.
Speaker 3:Was that after before the chronic in control volume one? Marley maul, when he did an album he did all the beats and all them. Jews crew niggas rapped on it okay it was coogee rap bears marky about what year? Was that and shit. That's what I'm trying to remember. That was before the chronic, so yeah, dray't first, but they was on that shit.
Speaker 2:I just wanted to be clear for the record, bro, that also made me think about what they would have done for Texas as far as a hip hop scene if DOC would have blew up like that.
Speaker 3:I mean Texas was doing this like at the time, faze and them was on one too already by the time D, them was on on one too already by the time the. Dlc shit came out like the Ghetto Boys was out right.
Speaker 2:So you think about it. So you'd have had the Ghetto Boys, you got Scarface and then you had the DLC added on to that. What would that have done for the way we look at Texas as a hip hop hub? You know what I'm saying? I don't know. We still look at Texas the same, I think.
Speaker 3:I just think it would be different for Snoop and it'd be different for the DLC himself. Like that shit would have changed the trajectory of a lot of shit and I don't think we would have ever gotten a Chronic Like the Chronic would have been the DLC second album Okay, but the Chronic that would have been in 91. That would have been Dre putting the DLC next fucking album out under Death Row. He would have been the main artist on Death Row. All the shit would have been behind, doc, I think.
Speaker 2:So kind of switching it up a bit. So we was talking about West Coast, talking about Texas, talking about Chicago. We started thinking about Chicago and some of Chicago's hip-hop cliques and crews. You know what I'm saying. Depending on who you talk to, people can name numerous cliques and crews. Do you think? Because you've been in it for a while, you've been emerged in this scene for a?
Speaker 3:long-ass time Shit from the beginning of it, for the most part Exactly.
Speaker 2:Do you think that the hip hop, the Chicago, with the clicks and the crews, do you think they have done more to progress the culture of Chicago hip hop? Or I know motherfuckers may get pissed off when I say it or slow it down neither.
Speaker 3:Actually okay like number one. People forget that chicago is a consumer town okay so that's the number one shit we got against us. As far as trying to be a breakout city. Our radio stations don't break records, it's hit format gc. I never said we break records, they say we play the fucking hits good point.
Speaker 3:They play the hits because other cities break records. If you go to atlanta, everything on their radio station right now is going to be on our radio station four months from now. Okay, they break records in new york. They break records in la. They break records down south. They do not break records. In chicago we buy records. George's music room is one of the most popular spots ever because that nigga sold a lot of people's records out of that store on the west side consumer town. You know what I'm saying. So that's number one. That's like the. That has nothing to do with no crews, no niggas, no, none of that shit. That's just the way chicago is set up, period. So that's that's like problem number one and shit. And then I don't think there's any one motherfucker that could put it on and there's no one crew that could.
Speaker 3:That could have killed it either okay every city I've been to is the same. When I was living in la la, niggas were saying the same shit chicago niggas saying about chicago. They saying that shit in la about la. Right now ain't no unity, we all trying to whatever at each other. They're like it was the same shit. You go to new york, they're gonna be saying the same shit about other new york niggas. Okay, texas, other texas niggas like I don't, it's not like a chicago thing. We just are more we around it, more and we, you know, I'm saying we live here and shit. So this is our reality, or what the fuck? Especially if niggas ain't been nowhere else for a significant amount of time. That's all you got to base shit off of. Not a knock, that's just all you got to base shit off of. You know what I'm saying? I lived in other spots and I've seen the same shit as far as the local scenes, in every fucking spot.
Speaker 2:So I meant to ask and I apologize, I really should have asked this long-ass time ago where are you from?
Speaker 3:chicago. Okay, I was born and raised in chicago. I just moved around. Yeah, at a certain point it got to be like yo, I'm gonna do this shit and I need to go somewhere where I can walk into an office or bump into the motherfuckers I need to bump into and do this. So in 98 I moved to atlanta. Okay, I was down there for like two and a half years. I ended up doing a lot more dirty shit than music shit. You know what.
Speaker 3:I'm saying so it got funny style, like I was in the county for a second down there and shit, like it got stupid and shit. So I came back to the crib, yeah, redid shit, and figured out LA was where I needed to go. So I went to LA. I was out there for like six or seven years but but it was all because of music Like it's popping in Atlanta. Let me go see what's up with it.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying, because Chicago, again, consumer town, you can't walk into a Def Jam office or Columbia or whatever. You know what I'm saying. Like none of that shit is here. We got middlemen. It's a city full of fucking middlemen and shit, gatekeepers and shit, and that's it. The nigga ain't here. That nigga is in la or new york or atlanta and you could bump into him if you go there. So that was my whole thinking where, if you go to santa monica and walk down, uh, colorado, nigga, it's mtv, they're like these are the offices, like standing outside, I'm gonna bump into somebody that's producing, doing some shit, right, you know what I'm saying. So it was just a whole like let me leave the the city Because I did everything. I rocked every venue, I done all the shit I could do here. Got to go outside the city and see what's cracking and shit. Atlanta worked out funny style just because niggas was on some nigga shit. Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know some survival. I was 20, 21 when I got down there, so it was kind of up and shit, you know. But LA, but LA, I had a little more of my shit together or whatever the fuck, and I'm out there trying to like. That's when I met Ice-T. That's when I got down with Project Blow AC alone and all that and Bionic was out there like it was a dope ass experience but I plugged in to a lot of shit. That's like authentic relationships. I'm cool with all them niggas right now. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:But I still hit motherfuckers up from out there.
Speaker 2:And that shit is important.
Speaker 3:That shit is very fucking important. That shit is more important than being dope. It's having good relationships with people. That's out here doing dope shit. You could be a huff-ass motherfucker falling into a gang of shit. Be based on who you know and who you was cool with at whatever time and who you? Looked out for and whatever Because the motherfucker look out for you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, motherfuckers, just do it out of familiarity. Yeah, like they'll look out for you and don't know why they are. It's like man, I do know you. Yeah, come on, know the nigga's face. Come on, type of shit, and you'll end up in situations just based off of do like. I fuck with him and then you in a room you need to be in for something you know I'm saying, which is which is that's how the fuck is supposed to be.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm saying like because that's the goal for you to be able to make it to be in those rooms so you can do what you gotta do in politic with the motherfuckers. You gotta politic. If you're supposed to be, um yo, we gotta take a break real quick. Hey, yo shout out to all the motherfuckers out there man, if that be going state to state and be flying on spirit and your ass just depressed like a motherfucker because that motherfucker's seat is fucked up, it's the Shits Podcast, man. It's the Shits what up? Ladies and gentlemen, it's the American Dream, the American Nightmare. The Heartbreaker Young Baka.
Speaker 1:And when I come to Chicago I check in. I get on the radio with the Shits Podcast One more time. Man give a big shout out to his shits podcast. Young Baca Productions. Man.
Speaker 3:Hollis, we out here yeah, yeah, yeah, be safe out here, boy shout out to that nigga Black Knight don't even cut that shout out Black Knight we're talking about.
Speaker 2:Man Griffin shout out to Black Knight in the building. Well, he was in the building, um, so alright. So we talked about what Chicago don't have. You know what I'm saying? Why it's kind of difficult for us to make.
Speaker 3:The plug ain't here nigga. Right, the plug ain't here. You got to fly the dope in.
Speaker 2:So, speaking of such okay, this is what I have observed, and correct me if I'm wrong To me, it seems like you becoming the plug. You are the plug with the shows, with the shows that you putting on with.
Speaker 3:I'm not the plug. Gq the plug. That nigga know everybody. He part of the Letterman and that whole investment group Okay, putting together that type of shit. And GQ is the plug. This motherfucker that nigga knows everybody. Dog, he's Spider-Man, this motherfucker in the middle of a web and he can reach out six degrees of separation and find whatever. You know, what I'm saying, just to clarify that shit.
Speaker 2:And I appreciate that.
Speaker 3:However, you play a part in it, connect the dots. I like, which is important, I definitely mold the shit. You know I'm saying I see the available assets and understand where to put them right. You know I'm saying like that matters. I just didn't want to act like that nigga wasn't like. I don't. I don't know half these niggas. That nigga knows everybody. You know what I'm saying. I get to know him and be cool, like our relationships. I can get to whoever I need to get to, but bro like has those relationships already with every fucking body, that shit is ridiculous, like all right so.
Speaker 2:And to me, I feel like it's good to be amongst that. You know what I'm saying and I feel like, just listening to everything you said where you've been whether it was Atlanta, whether it was LA like you picked up shit. You know what I'm saying. You picked up knowledge about. Hey, I need to be in a room with this person. I need to connect with this person.
Speaker 3:Like I tell my man uh TK, like bro niggas, take L's all the time. But it's up to you whether you look at it as losses or lessons and I take l's and them bitches be lessons nigga oh yeah so any l I take, I definitely learned some shit from it. Like I'm not gonna take the same loss or shit twice. It's not gonna happen two times, because I got the lesson out that motherfucker. So from all them situations was like, yeah, I'm learning some shit, you know, I'm saying it seemed like the?
Speaker 3:l got took but a lesson got took and that's good. So I ain't tripping and all of that shit applies to right now and all the shit I'm doing and how I know how to handle artists when y'all I'm booking you but it's not a regular booking agent, nigga, I'm an artist, bro. I know what the fuck like. We finna look out for you like I know how to do that. You know what I'm saying and I think that's.
Speaker 2:I think that's a blessing for the city. I think that's a blessing for the city. I think it's a blessing for the scene, because I do want to speak on the Barmageddon event, which was dope as fuck, and I know we had Andres Haley on the show and he spoke about it. And when he spoke about it he was like this is going to be a rapping ass show. That's what I mean like and that's exactly what the fuck it was you know know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:It was a good rapping ass show. It was. I'm bored these niggas is fucking rapping too much. You know what?
Speaker 4:I'm saying Every one of them.
Speaker 3:It was like a holy fuck, it was dope yeah.
Speaker 2:I felt like being there and experiencing it. It was like for niggas who love hip hop, for niggas who love lyrics you know what I'm saying For niggas who love performances, for niggas who love like dope ass beats and, like I said, I commended you for that because you was a part of that shit. When you start to think about those type of shows and capitalizing on the success of those shows, what's one of the first things you think about as far as how to get people out to those shows?
Speaker 3:um well, it's not really about the show.
Speaker 3:Like with this one, we were trying to create an experience okay specifically for motherfuckers, that's 35 and older, that don't go out much, because anything hip-hop you don't know what it is now it could be a whole drill. So it could be this like there's no real identifier on which type of, which brand of hip-hop you're gonna get at the event you're going to right. So I wanted to make it absolutely sure, like yo, this is a 90s vibe. If yo ass missed the 90 shit, here's an experience of what that shit felt like and what that shit was like. So we did a regular grassroots in store joint where it was free for people to come out.
Speaker 3:Um, jay dot had a dj set where he was spending all the artist shit. The shit was dope, you know, I'm saying. And then it's like the show whole after party shit with local sponsors and shit, like it was instead of this. And then like the artists, like at the fucking event, bro, they in the audience, they're in the crowd, it wasn't no green room, they in vip or some dressing room or some other shit. It was like real personable. So we wanted to really provide that shit as a authentic hip-hop experience that a lot of motherfuckers don't get and shit, that shit turned out exactly like that and that's what y'all did, bro.
Speaker 2:That's what y'all did, like, um, that's what y'all did For a motherfucker that paid attention to lyrics and for a motherfucker that paid attention to performances. I liked what I saw. I think Andres Haley put on a dope show. I think Vixx put on a dope show, the Licks Razz, cairns KT.
Speaker 3:So the venue we picked is a black owned venue on the south side. Nobody's really done anything there privilege, right privilege.
Speaker 2:Shout out to privilege dope venue.
Speaker 3:Maurice is the owner and shit, like he looked out for us and shit. But that's a black owned establishment. The in-store was at inglewood, branded on 63rd and ashland my man cory on that shit. Okay, black owned clothing store and shit. You know what I'm saying. Then we did the after party At the my man Mick's spot. It's a little Smoke bar and shit, but it's a black Owned spot and we did all that shit On the south side and normally when hip hop shit Comes here it's up north, it's just up north, like so there's no, um, there's no shit that happens for us where it's like I'm not 20, I'm not trying to be on the club, uh, like niggas is trying to chill, peep some shit.
Speaker 3:Uh, go through some nostalgia. Here's some dope shit. I remember right. You know I'm saying kick it a little bit, have a couple drinks, whatever on some regular ass shit and we just try to provide that shit. It's a void, we trying to fill that little gap up and shit. So we got a couple more things coming on the same vein. You know 35 and up, nigga Trying to kick it again.
Speaker 2:And I appreciate, like I honestly do appreciate, where y'all took it, man, because, like I said, like for me to be up in the spot and to hear somebody rhyming over a dope ass beat and they say a clever ass line, you're like, oh shit, it fuck with you bro, you know what I'm saying. Because you'd be like you appreciate that shit, because sometimes it'd be funny as hell or sometimes it'd be some shit where you'd be like damn, that nigga went there. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:And it's kind of like for me. I feel like we don't get a lot of that shit these days. You know, I'm saying like a lot of motherfuckers to me in my opinion, a lot of motherfuckers, not really focusing on the wordplay because the music, as far as rap goes, became about the cadence and not about the word anymore.
Speaker 3:Right, niggas don't give a fuck if you said some clever shit. They want to know you said it in a clever way, right, so you could have said some dumb bullshit, but if you said it where it sounded cool, then they rocking with it because the cadence of that shit they could bop to the shit. Yeah, and that's, that's like the, that's the bar now, which is fucked up and that's why I go back to like very much so I've had a before the whole no diddy, uh puffy campaign.
Speaker 3:Like I've been on that shit. Like I don't fuck with dude and I never have like when niggas like puffy did so. Like I don't know what he did, I don't listen to his records. Like I don't fuck with bro, right, because it like it's some vulture shit. You know what I'm saying. Him coming in the game and niggas hearing dudes like that rap these motherfuckers at home.
Speaker 3:Like nigga, I could rap better than that because they can they right so you lowered the bar and he's one of the reasons why it's every like it used to be. It was one or two niggas from every neighborhood that could rap. Yeah, oh my cousin. Oh this nigga over here, call they go every other house, bro, everybody can rap everybody every other house and it was like part of that happening was because of fucking diddy. You lowered the bar so far that all these niggas that shouldn't be rapping is like yo. If this nigga's making millions, I can do that. I know I can do it.
Speaker 3:And he just paying niggas. He writing checks for motherfuckers to write him bars.
Speaker 3:I'm going to do that Whack bars, not all the time. He just delivered them whack Because Sauce Money wasn't whack and he had some niggas that got some pants jayda could throw for him too. He got he just he ain't a rapper. He shouldn't be delivering none of this shit. Bro, sound goofy to the motherfucker delivering this shit. You know what I'm saying. But niggas didn't care because he had a whole lot of money and that was a problem. It's a slippery slope. Y'all didn't give a fuck. He had money. And now here's where we are exactly. Niggas don't give a fuck. Motherfuckers got money or they look rich. You follow them and that's just some goofy, that's some lame. We was never on that. But here we are and it's. It's like part of the reason. I ain't saying he's the, the main, whatever, but him being so prevalent and taking that biggie spot and using that whole or whatever and putting himself front and center like, yeah, you have a lot to do with that.
Speaker 3:We all got diddy you have a lot to do with that shit, nigga we all got. Diddy you had a lot to do with that shit nigga.
Speaker 2:No pun intended, that's all.
Speaker 3:I'm saying that was before any of the allegation, shit or whatever. That's just.
Speaker 2:Hey, yo, we're going to take a break real quick. Hey, shout out to the motherfuckers out there. Man, I actually got Diddy at the party saying they got a story coming up.
Speaker 3:Jay Jer to the. I had a shit podcast and I was like shit yo, it's Griffin checking in from Inglewood, motherfucker you know I'm with the shits yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. We are now back at the shit podcast, man, and we been this motherfucker just chopping it up with my man Griffin cause I'm gonna have to roll another one in a second.
Speaker 3:We keep doing this shit and and yo.
Speaker 2:I appreciate the fact that my man got a lot of knowledge as far as hip hop goes, as far as what motherfuckers need, as far as what the culture needs.
Speaker 3:I've just been doing this shit for a minute. G hey.
Speaker 2:I mean it's important, it's important.
Speaker 3:On some high level shit.
Speaker 2:I got this thing, man, this portion of the show called what If man? So portion of the show called what If man? So you got to reach in there and pull something out, man, and we're just going to say whatever it is, let me see. Alright, back, what if God was a black woman?
Speaker 3:What you mean? I thought God was a black woman, okay, okay, okay, just gotta ask that question. I'm just saying just to put it like that's all I know when we get into the God shit. But like people don't honor their parents the right way because really your mom is God. Like if God is the creator who created you, motherfucker, your mama did who you come out of, came out your mom yeah, that's God Bro. Like what the fuck you mean? That's the end of that. I'm glad you said that. What you mean, what if that's not even a what that shouldn't even be in your bag, bro? That's not even a what if.
Speaker 2:What you mean. I like to put it out there as what if people, what if everybody realized the black woman is god? What if everyone, the whole world, realized the black woman is god? What would be the difference? How?
Speaker 3:would I look well, how would I look different. What if like to be real honest? What if it's not like that for everybody like?
Speaker 3:in a way like like everybody's mom isn't a black woman necessarily. Like it's a different nationality, there's different ways of life, it's different, all kinds of shit, like now the original and all. Like when you want to get into where the first bones was found and all of that shit. Yeah, that's where it all began, cool. But it's not like that for everybody. Like if the person that gave birth to you was god everybody's mom ain't. You know what I'm saying? Like it's different people got different religions, different ways of looking at shit and I don't know. You gotta honor and respect that shit. Like there's, there's beliefs where, when you go to heaven or when you die, the shit that happens or whatever the fuck you thought was gonna happen.
Speaker 3:Like there is no one size fits all for this shit right, which is what people think it's not and that's, that's what we talk, that's what we, because that's what they trying to make it right so they can do. They think right, but it's it's. That's the whole dope shit about hip-hop, bro, is the individualism and shit is on full display. That was the fucking crux of it all. Right, it was like you could let whatever your thing is nigga go do that thing. Yeah, and we finna honor it. Let that shit shine. Oh shit. Look at that nigga doing what his thing is. He's cold at it.
Speaker 2:You just, nigga, wrote a rap about being on the toilet whatever.
Speaker 3:Like he's cold at that, he's that shit's entertaining in whatever way, like he's a interesting fellow, right? You know I'm saying like, and everybody's like that. And they found their thing. Your shit might not have been on the mic. You, dj, you called at that shit. You're transforming this shit and all that shit. You know shit might be.
Speaker 3:Paint, motherfucker, like this shit is all art, it's all expression, no matter how the fuck you're doing that, even down to how you dress. Yeah, you're talking walking. It's how you're expressing yourself, the confidence you carry when you move around a fucking room. It's your creativity. That's hip-hop, yeah, and that's what hip-hop taught motherfuckers. That's why, now you got, you can't judge any books out here, because you'll have the squarest looking white motherfucker. You'll never think he'll whatever. And this motherfucker knows all dos, effects, shit. Wow, this motherfucker knows the juice crew. You know what I'm saying. You just be like what the fuck is like. Yeah, nigga, now it's whole. Like, by hip-hop being 51, now, there's an entire generation of motherfuckers that grew up on nothing but that shit. Right, not just niggas, everybody the world. The world grew up on it. Like. Motherfuckers that don't speak English grew up on this shit, right? You know what I'm saying Like that's some other shit. No, you're right, that's some other other shit, you're right.
Speaker 2:And the thing is, it's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful, it's powerful. It's powerful as a motherfucker. And the thing is, for a person like yourself who has the opportunity not only to make that music but to put people in a position where others can see their art, where others can hear their art, that's powerful, bro. You see what I'm saying, that's powerful and that's why I'm saying I commend you for it, because I'm listening to how you speak. I'm listening to your passion for raising your daughter. You see what I'm listening to how you speak. I'm listening to your passion for raising your daughter. You see what I'm saying. I'm listening to your passion for dealing with the youth. You know what I'm saying. I'm listening to your passion for how this Chicago shit should work. You know what I'm saying and how you recognize the lack of resources that we have and how we need that shit. So motherfuckers like you are very important people when it comes down to this.
Speaker 2:Not just the hip-hop period, but Chicago hip-hop especially Bro.
Speaker 3:I just want to be surrounded by dope shit. I want to do dope shit, but you got to create it.
Speaker 2:You see what I'm saying you got to create it.
Speaker 3:Nah, I just got to identify it. You know, what I'm saying. It's not even creating that shit and then putting it in play.
Speaker 2:What I'm saying is you create your surroundings. We all do. We all create our surroundings, whether you know it or not.
Speaker 3:You create your surroundings. No facts, but that's why I say that out loud a lot and I type it out loud, I tweet it every now and again Like nigga, I just want to be surrounded by dope shit. Yeah, dope shit. Nice car you created, nice fucking merch. You know what I'm saying. Proper weed Bruh, you know what I'm saying? Like, since we talked, comfortable situations, g.
Speaker 2:Since we talked, since I since we talked, within the last hour and a half, I've seen three dope ass pieces of merch that sweatshirt, the one you got up under it, then what shirt? The one you got up under it, then another shirt, that's it. Nigga, that's creating, that's powerful. Right there, bro, we make shit, dog, that's what we do, so all right. So now I gotta switch it up, man.
Speaker 3:I gotta go to a real serious question, all right, so look, here's the situation. It's not gonna be a serious question like the setup already. Let me know it's not a serious fucking question depends on who you talk to here's.
Speaker 2:Here's the situation. So you got a person that you really digging. You really emotionally connected to that person.
Speaker 3:It's a relationship, yeah, okay, you vibing with her.
Speaker 1:You know I'm saying, yeah, it's a motherfucker, you think of all the time.
Speaker 2:You know I'm saying. This is the person that you feel like you want to spend your time with right? Here's the problem no matter how many showers she take, no matter how much deodorant she put on, she will always be musty. Do you stay with her? Can you stay in that relationship?
Speaker 3:some niggas like musty I don't know what kind of musty, it's levels to this shit. I don't know, hey, what kind of musty like it's levels to this shit, I don't know. So basically, you're just saying would body odor be a deal breaker in a relationship?
Speaker 2:like, no matter how much they like, no matter how much they shower, no matter how much deodorant they put on, like they always gonna have that body odor.
Speaker 3:That doesn't even make sense, though, but I mean, that's the case it could be a medical condition.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying it could be a medical. Do you, do you stay? Do you stay in a relationship?
Speaker 3:like that's kind of I don't know, man, that's so weird. Like do you stay with a nigga? You stinky, I gotta leave. Leave because you stinky, like hey, but you'll be surprised. I mean, it's a thing, it's be surprised, bro, it happens, what's I know? But what's crazy is like all right and it's off, like my mom. You know, some people like all right, some people are blind, like some people can't uh, hear they definitely my mom was born without the sense of smell at all.
Speaker 3:Some people are blind, some people can't hear, they deaf. Yeah, my mom was born without the sense of smell at all. She's never smelled anything in her life. Okay, she can't smell and shit. So in that situation, you'd be like, damn if a motherfucker, if I ain't have to smell. You know what I'm saying you wouldn't know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that shit wouldn't matter. So in certain situations like man, motherfuckers work, other some kind of fucking way and shit, so universe is always right. So if that was, I can't call it, but I mean it really depend on how good the waffles is when she make them like I don't know, like maybe she the bombest cook ever right? Hey, bro, I don't know. It's situational like that shit is. I can't even say it on some, on some paper shit. It's like life is too lifey for that type of shit.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. That's why I love to ask that question, bro, because I want people to think about. How much are you willing to accept, how much are you willing to accept from others?
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you can't honestly answer a question like that until you're in the midst of that situation. That's why I want people to think about it.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying but even thinking about it, you're not thinking about. It is theoretical. Okay. That's the type of shit where you have to be like, yeah, but fuck it, man. Like she wrong Right. You know what I'm saying. Like you get past it and that's, but you wouldn't be able to really honestly answer that until you're actually in that shit, bro, like because right now it's just on some like nigga, oh, I never do this and all right, because I say a whole lot of shit until they in it. Until they in it, and it'd be a whole different fucking situation.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. So that's just one of them questions where it's like you could say whatever nigga, but if you in it, you in it, it's a different you probably nigga, I can't call it like, yeah, we gotta take a break real quick.
Speaker 2:Hey, yo shout out to all the musty motherfuckers out there that uh, go to the concerts and keep their hands down, even when the people say put your hands in there. Hey, it's the shits.
Speaker 4:Podcast man, it's the shits this comedian, marnie P, checking in from the Shits Podcast.
Speaker 2:We are now back at the Shits Podcast. We, the shooting the shit, starting some shit, picking up shit. We locked off. So at this portion I think we might be in the portion we probably starting some shit. Man, I don't be starting shit, bro, you don't be starting shit. A motherfucker start shit with you. Right, I'm gonna start shit. So let's touch on that man, because you had somewhat of a situation. Let's speak on that. I had a situation, there was a situation.
Speaker 3:Let's speak on that. Nigga, you said what you talking about. I don't know the beef let's, let's, let's which. What do you mean? I don't I talking about the the, the beef, let's, let's, let's which. What do you mean?
Speaker 2:um, hey, the the most recent. Let's talk about the most recent, no I don't, I'm not again. Bro, you got a question about some shit cool, but I don't, I'm not bringing up, bringing up okay so let's put it this way has there been a point where you have been doing what you have been doing, but you have encountered problems from people that have a problem with what you're doing, how you're trying to progress, how you're trying to make shit happen?
Speaker 3:I mean there's a lot of behind the scenes shit in Chicago. I don't know as much as you do.
Speaker 2:It's a lot Because you've been around it way longer and you are way deeper in it, but I would love to get your perspective on it and how you handled it and how you handle it.
Speaker 3:It's a lot of behind the scenes shit in chicago. Um, it's the time for it. No, I don't even like it's the time for it. I don't know. You would have to ask me about specific situations because I can't.
Speaker 2:Even so, like I said, in the process of you doing your thing and you trying to make shit pop, can you speak on situations where people have tried to place obstacles in front of you and place boundaries on you in order to stop you from progressing the way you need to progress?
Speaker 3:I mean, if a motherfucker put a try to put an obstacle, I wouldn't know it. Like none of that shit stopped what I was doing okay like there's nobody in chicago. That really stopped, stopped what I was doing. Niggas might have prevented me from doing a specific show, speak on that, or I'm just a, or being on a specific album or some shit like that, but it wasn't no shit. That really. Like ain't no beef, like stopped me from no so why do you think that is?
Speaker 2:let me ask you that why do you? Why do you think? Well, from what I hear you talk about, it's a lot of positivity. It's a lot of I'm trying to help motherfuckers.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to do this for oh because everybody ain't trying to help and sometimes I gotta identify that's out here not really like like front, like they trying to help and they really trying to help themselves. Like that's when I get into issues with like ryan fest and okay, I'm saying it's like hip-hop is not a grift to me, right? I'm not using this shit, um, as a means to only enrich myself for other shit. Right, like I do this shit because I do this shit. Like this is that's your passion grain, like a motherfucking shit, and if I can help anybody, do that shit.
Speaker 3:Like I've never stepped on anybody to try to better my situation, right, um, I've never shitted on nobody in this shit because they name wasn't popping the way I thought it should have been for whatever the fuck. Like none of that shit. Like anybody that was with me, I've always been like my mom. Like if niggas ride in the car with you, they riding home with you, which makes sense, y'all niggas in my car and we go to the club g G, we not leaving the bitch till. Everybody that was in my car is good and they back in my car, right, type shit. You know what I'm saying and everybody's not like that. It's a gang of niggas out here that'll go to the club with a car full of niggas and leave n guys. You know I'm saying like so it's that type of shit where I bump heads with ryan fest on shit because he know.
Speaker 3:I know what kind of nigga he is right and we ain't never gonna mesh on shit, so it's always a clash you know what I'm saying, so so would you.
Speaker 2:Would you classify him as a person that's not authentic? I mean, I'm trying to put a light.
Speaker 3:Uh yeah, that nigga's a slime ball okay you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:And again, he can rap and shit. So what a gang of niggas can rap, real fucking good, yeah, but okay, like, name me. Name me any fucking Like. There's a reason why If you're a Grammy Award winner, right, right, but when the Grammys that you got awarded were presented, you weren't even on stage to get them Right. That was a decision made somewhere more than one time, for a fucking reason For you not to be present. You ain't coming to get it Right. You wrote it, you did work. You did work. Get your credit, yeah, but you ain't. You can't come on stage with us, right, more than one time. That's not an accident.
Speaker 2:There's a reason for that right you know, I'm saying like that niggas a slime ball so you not the first person that I've heard speak about buddy like that.
Speaker 3:Bro, if you have. So he's in charge of Donda's house. You have a billionaire backing a nonprofit for kids, right? You fuck it up. Donda's house all fucked up. And now you running for CPS like I'm supposed to trust my kids with you. You couldn't even run a non-profit with a billionaire backing your shit cuz.
Speaker 2:Right for kids so it's like what's the problem? Like something like the math ain't the math ain't adding up.
Speaker 3:You're a fucking slime ball. Like the problems have been identified. Niggas just don't know it yet because you good at the grift and hip-hop ain't a grift to me, g, you know what I'm saying, right so, like bro, listening to you, man, like what I get from you is that you analyze things.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm saying like you analyze things and like it seems to me like pisces, super analytical and that shit some more.
Speaker 3:If you're on the zodiac, shit like that's that shit like make it's analytical as fuck.
Speaker 2:So yeah you right Now for some people that can be a problem, because they already know they on bullshit. So when they already know they on bullshit. I said for some people when they come across a person that's analytical and they're really reasoned to shit, that can be a problem for them.
Speaker 3:You can't bullshit me, and you know it, so all your grift shit is not working over here when we in a room together. Right. So you don't want to be in a room?
Speaker 2:So do you think that was part of the issue that you had with Rhymefest?
Speaker 3:No, the issue that I had with R Ron Fess is he's a fucking slime ball. Okay, like I mean I, I don't know, like I fuck with authentic people. You know what I'm saying. Like I, I don't want to say names and burn shit, like like here's a story and shit and I'll say it without even burning no shit up when Fess was working on his debut album, a producer he fucked with for years before he got the deal and all that shit. He brought him out to the spot. He was working on the album in for a couple months and shit, bro made a gang of beats, did shit for the album. This nigga told dude he can't use none of the beats he made because his name ain't big enough and he's trying to use all big name producers on this project. Like you can't get a nigga interlude that nigga can't get right. This nigga been with you from the beginning. Like from the beginning beginning we was 14 years old. This nigga was with you.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying, and if it's dope, it's dope it.
Speaker 3:I mean, I'm just thinking that I should, but that shows you what type of nigga you're talking about. Like this you're not concerned with authenticity or what's dope, you're concerned with what some shit. Look like the name, the clap. You're a weak motherfucker bro like you, supposed to ride with your people? Like again, that's what I'm saying. You got in the car with me, g, I'm getting you home, right. You put the nigga in the car and then left his ass where he was at and you went drove off with yay right left that nigga where he was at.
Speaker 3:That's the type of nigga like, that's a character thing and this is like bro it's. I'm not finna go through every example, but it just come back to like the niggas a slime ball. And now, your grift, is you trying to use some shit and use the kids? To further your grift you a super fucking slime ball that's really fucked up you fucked up Donda's house, bro, like pull a resume at this, motherfucker, like why you think you ain't making it. Prime got elected.
Speaker 2:All them, men Rhymefest didn't shout out to Andre Vasquez, aka Prime, because that shit is huge. That shit is fucking huge and I think that that's some shit to be celebrated, because Prime is a motherfucker. That was like hip hop, hip hop. It wasn't even like a commercial type nigga, it was like hip hop, hip hop.
Speaker 3:I remember when Prime was, I was out. I remember when he came out. I remember when he first popped up on the scene and shit, Like I fuck with bro. I fuck with bro. But yeah, you know authenticity matters and shit, and you run across people like it gets identified who the fuck they are. So the stories you're hearing. You don't hear a bunch of stories about a motherfucker. That's not true. If it's a bunch of stories about a motherfucker, it's probably true.
Speaker 2:Hey man, there's probably some truth to it, nigga, hey, yeah, we got to take a break real quick. And man shout out to all the motherfuckers shady, nah, fuck that shit, we ain't shouting them out.
Speaker 1:Montoon Bubble Ball. It's the sh, but I can't say that you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We are now back At the Shits Podcast and we're here Kicking it with the one, the only, my man Griffin.
Speaker 3:Yeah, twista, twista got a dope case. You can make a whole case For Twista being the greatest of all time On some On technical rap shit so I like the way during the break you broke down that he writes 32 bars. Twister writes 32 bars for every 16. We do right, just like tech.
Speaker 3:Nine same shit, yeah you know, what I'm saying, but twist the shit super clear. Every word he hit it. Yes, the shit he put together is crazy like the niggas are fucking lyricists, with the whole thug emphasis and shit. But he's a fucking writer and you could feel that shit, hear that shit and all that shit. And he, he talk about shit. Niggas saying out here, like our shit. Yeah, bro, it's audible. You can make a fucking case for any rapper you bring up. You can put twist the shit up against this nigga shit and be like yo, he got one of them. Yeah, he got one of them too. Right, he got a couple of them. A case can be made is all I'm saying is that nigga is in the conversation of the greatest motherfucker to rap.
Speaker 2:Do you think that he get the amount of credit that he deserves? Fuck?
Speaker 3:no, not at all. Why do you?
Speaker 2:think that he get the amount of credit that he deserves Fuck?
Speaker 3:no, not at all.
Speaker 2:Why do you think that is?
Speaker 3:Humility On his part. Yeah, humble motherfucker.
Speaker 2:I mean, I like the fact that I see him out at the spots.
Speaker 3:You'll see him at the spots humble as hell, but he don't like. Kanye is not one of the greatest rappers, but motherfuckers will talk about him like he's one of the greatest rappers. But motherfuckers will talk about him like he's one of the greatest rappers because he tells them he's one of the greatest rappers. But Twista ain't like that. He just gonna be one of the greatest rappers, but he ain't. Finna tell you. It's like the difference between LeBron and Jordan. Lebron will be like I'm the best ever, I'm the GOAT, and Mike just like nigga.
Speaker 2:Just look at it you know what it is right, right, you know, I'm saying like whatever it's.
Speaker 3:That's the difference in that shit where you know I'm saying motherfuckers, both great, but one motherfucker's in your face about it and another motherfucker kind of humble with it. So you don't get recognized as much because you're not standing on it this hard, you're just kind of doing it right. So when niggas look back over the shit and flip through your catalog they'd be like damn, but you wasn't standing there like nigga.
Speaker 3:This album was the greatest album that ever album did you know I'm saying, like you ain't one of them motherfuckers and shit, so you kind of you might get glossed over on some mainstream recognition shit. You know I'm saying so bro is up there. He's in the conference. I don't give a fuck like that nigga in the conversation so so do you, do you think?
Speaker 2:do you think more? Do you think more artists should be more like a twister and be like more humble with it, or be more in your face and be like no motherfucker, I know I'm dope. I'm dope, you should know I'm dope. I don't know why the fuck you're not saying I'm dope.
Speaker 3:There's no blueprint for this shit. We make the rules for this shit. You should be your motherfucking self, okay, and enjoy your shit, bro. Period, there's no like. What should artists do? Like nigga. Be a fucking artist, nigga. Like. Can't nobody tell you how to draw a picture? Right, you paint the picture. How the? If you want to follow this style of, uh, renaissance in the 20s, all that shit cool, follow that little shit. But you don't have to. Why? Because, with art, we make the rules to this shit as we go. Nigga. Like that part. You know I'm saying it's hip-hop. That's what's the dope shit about hip-hop and what niggas that grew up on. The shit learned from this shit is we make this shit up as we go, bro, like all this shit was made up. All this shit was made up. Religion, all this shit was made up. At some point.
Speaker 3:Somebody made this shit up and the gang of niggas chimed in and was like, yeah, I believe that, right, but at some point it wasn't no that.
Speaker 2:Somebody came up.
Speaker 3:Somebody made all this shit up. Dog Right, we made it up. Nigga. We make the rules, bro. You know what I'm saying no.
Speaker 2:I feel you on that.
Speaker 3:Ain't no like nigga. What advice would you give an artist? Nigga? Be a fucking artist, bro. Stop trying to find a blueprint or a magic. Do you Be a creator? Make shit. Be a fucking creator. Make shit, nigga. What the fuck.
Speaker 2:Make shit.
Speaker 3:Be a fucking creator.
Speaker 2:And, and I think that and do from the conversation that I've had with you, that's what I got is that the importance of being a creator, whether it be the merch, whether it be the rhymes, whether it be the relationships and you know what I'm saying the connections that you make, connecting the dots, you know what I'm saying. All that shit is you creating a space, you creating an environment, and I think that shit is important. You know what I'm saying and I'm going to go off of just really being honest. I'm going to go off the last event, which was the Barmageddon event. You, whether it was you by yourself, or whether it was you with GQ, y'all created a space where motherfuckers who loved hip-hop was in a dope environment, environment and they felt it. You know what I'm saying and they fucking felt it.
Speaker 3:I tell you, dude, the energy in the building that night was like I haven't felt that shit since some 90s shit. Like it felt like the Elbow Room vibe on a Monday night in 96 or some shit. You know what I'm saying. It was just like yo, this is that shit. This is what made niggas fall in love with this shit. Right, like that's what you need the licks. Shout out to the fucking licks man. The licks was scheduled to rock for 35 minutes. The niggas performed for an hour and we had to pull them off stage because the venue was closing. Like I'm not lying, you know, it was just like niggas the people watching and the niggas performing had so much fun that night. Doing this shit Like niggas was like y'all over time, dude, e-swift back there like I don't know what song we doing next.
Speaker 2:Yeah we just doing it.
Speaker 3:He's just pulling up shit, like he's just pulling up records and they just rocking them up. It was just likeassi was supposed to rock for like 25-30 minutes. Bro was on stage for 45 minutes and shit.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying and like made it a point to stop his show. To be like yo, the Chicago niggas y'all seen. Rock was like y'all witnessed future legends y' I don't even know it, you know what I'm saying Like he was really on that shit, like. So the energy that was created in the building was literally reminiscent of what it felt like when niggas was late teenagers, early 20s in the spots in. Chicago. Like yo, this is what it was In the midst of it, when now you got these shows Chicago dope.
Speaker 3:If a big name artist comes to the crib, you got a gang of openers that's probably not that good because they paid for their slot to open. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So if you can pay for a slot, that's fine. Really fuck when the mixtape shit was happening. I respect the DJs and all that shit, but the fucking grift of charging artists to get slots on your mixtape like now your mixtape just finna sound like whatever the fuck. That tape like now your mixtape just finna sound like whatever the fuck. That's a whole nother story. Like whoever the fuck paid is now on the mixtape and you can't guarantee all these was even dope. So now you're not doing it for yeah, this is what some raw you're doing it for. I made five thousand dollars.
Speaker 2:Put the money or even put this out it's bastard about this, but I'm.
Speaker 3:I got a name, so now I'm exploiting myself and pimping my name. It's just like it's bastardized. It sucks, man.
Speaker 2:It's bastardized, it waters down.
Speaker 3:It fucks up the product Like a motherfucker. You got a mixtape. Nobody want to fucking listen to.
Speaker 2:Because you got 30 fucking artists on there but you made five bands. Yeah, you got yours, but like the consumer and I'm glad you pointed out before that Chicago suffers.
Speaker 3:The fucking culture suffers because not only do you have some niggas that shouldn't be doing this shit thinking they should be doing this shit you know what I'm saying you done robbed the world of some engineers or some cold ass nigga could have been a raw mathematician or something, but this nigga think he a rapper or shit like. Come on it. Just fuck up the balance of everything with letting black shit ride and doing the shit for the grift, and that be my problem with half the niggas. Like dog hip hop, it's the same. We go back to the shit where Beach Street was authentic. Break in was a grift. Right.
Speaker 3:They both the same, but you see the difference. Like this is the grift.
Speaker 2:And I love how you broke that down.
Speaker 3:But this product is like damn. That shit is gritty and kind of raw in your face and yeah, that's the shit. This shit over here is all it's pretty, but there's really nothing to it. This shit is flimsy.
Speaker 2:It's fluff there's nothing really there.
Speaker 3:It's fluff. It's nothing really there. You know what I'm saying? I love the way you broke that down.
Speaker 2:I don't know, that's just hey. Hey, y'all check this out. I can honestly and I'm saying this with all sincerity this shit can go on for hours, man, but I know motherfuckers got shit to do and honestly, bro, I truly, truly, truly do appreciate your time, man, because you got a lot of shit going on, like real shit, and I really do appreciate what you're doing for the city, I appreciate what you're doing for the culture and I appreciate, appreciate what you're doing for the youth, because motherfuckers need it.
Speaker 3:You know I'm saying some of these little niggas just need a conversation because there's shit that really hasn't ever occurred to them and nobody said it, nobody's saying it, and you know not to say I'm not even know, like I didn't fix it, and they listen to me like they don't listen to me.
Speaker 3:They just need a month they gonna hear me later, though, you know what I'm saying and it's like that because, like, even you gotta remember like that's the the biggest problem I got with a lot of grown and is y'all forgot what it was like to be 15. Man bro, like y'all forgot and I'll be trying to hold on that and remember like uh hold on like this. Nigga's an idiot right now you know, I'm saying like he's 15.
Speaker 3:This whole value structure is fucked up right. So even when we was on that shit and we was on our wild shit, by the time niggas hit 25, 26, all the shit we was hearing from the right motherfuckers came back on some like oh shit, like these are life truths yeah you know I'm saying that came out so you just got to be the motherfucker sometime.
Speaker 3:That's the. I'm tired of hearing that shit. Yeah, I know, I'm still gonna say it. I'm gonna say it like you're gonna hear it because nobody's saying it to you and you need to be tired of it.
Speaker 3:So when it come and you need it, it's gonna be in your mind for you, right? You know I'm saying because there's been situations where you needed it and it wasn't even in your mind for you. Nobody fucking told you Because nobody fucking said it, bro. So it's as simple as that. A lot with young motherfuckers and all that shit. Number one meet them where they at. And number two you know what I'm saying? That shit.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to say this man, let people know where they can find you at, what you got coming up, because not only do he have music, he's doing the events he got merch. So let everybody know where they can find you at, because I'm telling you like this y'all need to get in tune, y'all need to get in tune with him.
Speaker 3:Twitter is at Griffin. Or email me, man.
Speaker 5:I can't even spell this shit out, though it's anti-everything at.
Speaker 3:Gmail. It's anti-everything at Gmail, but I think that's pointless to even. But hit me on Twitter at Griffin G-R-I-F-F-E-N. I got three albums coming out before the year ends and shit like Effortless, pan 2, the Immortal and another joint with my man, dad Makes Beats called the. End Is Near.
Speaker 3:So those shits are coming. We have more shows coming, I'm planning on a couple more events, but we're not doing shit. I don't do it every month, just so it can be an experience for real, like some actual special shit. It's like yo, this is a fucking, this is a thing, you know what I'm saying where I'm not trying to water that shit down and make it whatever, so I'm three or four of them a year and I'm gucci and shit. I'm hitting niggas every season and shit, something like that.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying, but the music is always cracking. Yeah, shout out to Gigante, dad makes beats and yeah, shit, I don't know. At Griffin for the most part Twitter, you can catch me and shit.
Speaker 2:Hey, I'ma leave y'all with this Shout out to Scarface man.
Speaker 3:Sorry, prayers up for Scarface nigga.
Speaker 2:Definitely.
Speaker 3:I hope you get better and shit, but I fuck with bro Face Bob music, that shit. That's my shit forever. Nigga, I'm gang for life. You already fucking know. I'm sorry, carey.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no. I'm gonna leave y'all with this. I don't know who need to hear this. Stop overthinking. Stop overthinking things. The thing, If you know it's a fact that you don't know, why not choose to think positive about it instead of thinking negative about it? Because the thing is you don't fucking know. So, to make yourself feel better, at least think positive about it. You know what I'm saying. So stop overthinking. Also, make fans not followers. Followers will get you clout, but fans will get you work. Trust the process. Understand that the only thing that happens overnight is sleeping and slobbing oh, I'm sorry yeah griffinbandcampcom.
Speaker 3:That's where you can find all my shit. Bro, there we go. I ain't even I should have plugged that, but it's griffin with an E bandcampcom and shit like it's. It's a gang of music on that motherfucker, and shit. So yeah, y'all get in tune y'all get in tune.
Speaker 2:Um, man, y'all can check out the podcast on spotify apple podcast. Uh, anywhere you get your podcast at, you can find me on instagram at monsoonstarrar. That's s-t-R-A-W. Also, this is podcast on Instagram and on Facebook.
Speaker 3:Appreciate y'all having me too, man I thank you for coming, bro.
Speaker 2:Like hey, listen y'all. I've been blessed to be able to sit down and converse with people that's doing some big shit and really get the opportunity to really pick your brain, man, and really get that knowledge. Because the thing is like these for me, me, these are google in person. That's how I like to look at it. This is google in person. Instead of me googling what this man doing and what he's talking about, I get a chance to hear and talk to him about it. So I appreciate that and I thank you for your time ain't finna be on google anymore.
Speaker 3:Shout out to tk and shit and the letterman and shit. Um, those guys helped me put a lot of this event shit together and find the finance and the shit and securing sponsorships and shit like that. So yeah, tk GQ.
Speaker 2:Hey, y'all getting tuned.
Speaker 3:Yeah, shout out Morris and my people Inglewood Branded that's my guy Like yeah, leaders in them, you know.
Speaker 2:Chicago shit boy.
Speaker 3:Chicago shit, y'all Dope shit. I just want to be surrounded by dope shit, dope shit. I just wanna be surrounded by dope shit. So I only fuck with niggas.
Speaker 2:I think it's really dope G and I heard a saying that night. I heard a saying that night that I think is dope as fuck and I'm, I know somebody coming with a t-shirt for this shit, but they said Chicago niggas never forgot how to rap never forgot how to rap, shout out I Am God.
Speaker 3:That's that nigga. Whole shit. Also, effortless Pen Is on. So no Mediocre Is I Am God's label. Okay. There's only two artists On that shit Me and that nigga. Oh so Effortless Pen. The first one came out On no Mediocre. Okay. And Filthy Analects and shit. But. Y'all get it too.
Speaker 3:Part two Comes out on no Mediocre and Filthy and shit also and shit. So that's the only shit. Besides, I Am God, shit that's on no Mediocre right now is some Griffin shit. You know what I'm saying. So that's my man. I fuck with him, he dope. I've been trying to encourage bro for a really long time and he shit. He went way past any expectations in this motherfucker.
Speaker 3:Like yo, he's incredible man. He's a dope ass artist. It was a dope show. Nothing but the best for that nigga like. I want that motherfucker to go farther than not ever winning this bitch.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying it was a dope show, bro. It ain't over. Y'all, make sure y'all get in tune. Shout out to my man, decker Durs, cause without Decker Durs this would not be possible shout out to anybody.
Speaker 3:Shout out to Cab Crew, cab Crew, buck Crew. It's unity.
Speaker 2:Now nigga Shout out to anybody that fuck with the shit's podcast. Hey, man, shout out to my man, bub G. Man, shout out to my man, bub G. Shout out to Dee Dee Licious. Shout out to B Carrington. And hey, man, y'all, make sure y'all get in tune with us and we'll holler at y'all next time it's the shit's podcast. Y'all, we out Peace.