The S.H.I.T.T.S Podcast

From Nicknames to Noteworthy Sounds

Monsoon Staraw/Stone Flacco/RawCaesar Season 10 Episode 201

Ever wondered how childhood nicknames shape our identities and creativity? Join us as we sit down with Stone Flacco and RawCaesar, two dynamic artists who unravel the fascinating stories behind their monikers. Stone shares how a once-disliked nickname from his youth eventually became a badge of honor, while Flacco explains how "Delgado" pays homage to his roots. RawCaesar sheds light on transforming his middle name into a unique creative persona. These conversations underscore the transformative power of embracing one's identity and using it as a foundation for artistic expression.

Prepare to be inspired by the eclectic musical influences that have shaped Stone and Raw's journeys. From the gritty tales of Wu-Tang Clan and Nas to the introspective genius of Chicago's own Common and Lupe Fiasco, they reveal how these artists have left an indelible mark on their music. Our guests also discuss the vibrant and diverse Chicago music scene, where legends like Kanye West and Chance the Rapper continue to inspire new generations. Discover how the city's melting pot of sounds offers a platform for emerging local talent ready to push the boundaries of lyrical expression.

But it's not all about music. We navigate the complexities of personal and professional relationships in the industry, with Stone Flacco, the "vibe master," diving into his latest project, "The Last Vibe Fighter." Learn about the importance of chemistry, trust, and emotional honesty in collaborations, and how these elements enhance creative partnerships. The episode wraps up with a thought-provoking discussion on cultural norms, healthy relationships, and the ever-essential role of marketing in the music world. Tune in for an engaging exploration of identity, creativity, and the art of connection.

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Speaker 1:

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We are now back at the Shits Podcast, where we either shooting the shit, starting some shit or picking up what shit left off. And tonight in the building we got my man Stone Flacco and my man Ross Caesar. So I gotta ask this question, man, why the names? You know everybody be having a different story for their names and shit.

Speaker 2:

Well, Stone man Stone. That's like a childhood nickname.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

They've been calling me that since that year motherfucking sixth, seventh grade man Really. Yeah, I don't know why, because he look high.

Speaker 4:

He look high growing up. That's why I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 2:

Like I fucking hated that shit man. Like I think I almost the dude that gave me that fucking name. Like I almost I think we almost fought because he kept calling me that shit.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

He kept calling me Stoney. Yeah, stoney, you know what I'm. Everybody and their fucking mamas and their grandmamas be calling me Stone and shit oh okay, so it's like I mean. So it's like yo I can't do nothing about it now.

Speaker 1:

I said just keep it.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, I mean, I just kept it.

Speaker 1:

You made lemonades out of lemons.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, yeah, but Flaco. Flaco just comes from my last name. My last name is Delgado.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Which means skinny. You know, flaco skinny. So I mean the last name wasn't too much too, but yeah, it just kept the nickname man, okay. Okay, one thing I noticed yo like black folk, don't call me Stone though they call me. Flaco.

Speaker 3:

There's a reason for it. I didn't know why I'm all like yo, but then I think Misfit told me.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying he would know.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I get it. Okay, I get it. Yeah, you know like, hey, man, it's like your name being Folks Flaco and shit you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so I mean I got it.

Speaker 1:

So you got to especially like in Chicago man, we just understand the culture, you know what I'm saying. Like my brother used to live here but he moved and then I remember he came back and we was driving he had his hat broke off to the left cause in California they don't do that over there, right in.

Speaker 4:

California. They don't trip on it, that's only Chicago. He oblivious to it. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1:

and we riding and there's some motherfuckers pull up on the side of the car and I'm like, hey bro, straighten that shit up, straighten that head up. You counter. I'm like, hey, bro, straighten that shit up, straighten that head up, straighten that head up. You know what I'm saying. So I think, like the people in Chicago, we understand the culture. We understand gang culture. You know it ain't always fair, but we understand the culture.

Speaker 4:

It is what it is, though.

Speaker 1:

Exactly so, for you like, why the name Ross Caesar?

Speaker 4:

Well, Caesar, that's my middle name. I hated that name Okay.

Speaker 3:

My first name's.

Speaker 4:

Julio, so it's Julio Caesar. I didn't like that shit, but that's what my mom gave me. So then in school I was like man, fuck it. I never really used that name. But when we started rhyming I just again I didn't like the name. So I flipped it around to like Rasek, right, yeah? And so I was like let me just go back to it. So I kept the raw and then just went with caesar.

Speaker 1:

You know that's dope and and the cool part about that is that with this entertainment shit, being creative, you can be anything you want to be, bro. Yeah, you know, I'm saying whatever name you want to fucking use, you can use it. You y'all took names that y'all didn't particularly like yeah, and made that shit something cool, so that shit is beautiful. You know what I'm saying. That's like a motherfucker have a nickname dumbass. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1:

you know, like, my name is little dumbass, like what the fuck, um, how did you, how did y'all, get introduced to music, especially like well for you on the production side, how did you get introduced to it?

Speaker 2:

um, man, well, I mean the first thing. I you know that that caught me, like with hip-hop and shit was like uh crucial conflict okay do or die and shit, um, but I kind of like, uh, separated from that because of that. You know what we were talking about earlier the gang culture and shit. Everybody in our neighborhood. You know what I'm saying, you hear that shit being fucking on the fucking trunk and shit. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

And I'm like man, I didn't fuck with the gang culture like that when I started hanging out with raw and you know saying cousin, and they put me on like wu-tang okay and nas, and that new york sound um, just kind of just marinated into my ears and ever since then I'm more like yo, I want to rap. So I remember when we were kids we would be, um, I will remember ghostface verse and shit and he'll remember uh was it about?

Speaker 4:

uh, uh, rizza yeah, I was, I was, I was man, that's fuck with the rizza verses yo. Nobody ever really fuck with the real. Yo like uh the first when. When I first got introduced to the woo, he was the first person I gravitated to. I don't know why I felt like his shit was so cerebral like the way he was pinning his bars.

Speaker 4:

It didn't matter. Like you know, like his voice, like now his voice is, like he probably didn't have the best voice, but his bars, though, to me were like they just like just sparked my mind, and shit.

Speaker 1:

So I was like man.

Speaker 4:

I kind of gravitated to that. And plus his production Was crazy.

Speaker 1:

I definitely I agree with you on that.

Speaker 4:

So, on the Woo, I fuck with the RZA first, and then from there it was just like Nah, I'm going to Ghost, I'm going to Ray. And then it was like I'm like, oh, alright, but.

Speaker 1:

I've never heard anybody Say I'm with the RZA first.

Speaker 4:

Yo my shit was Raw Sector Okay.

Speaker 5:

You know what I, the Resurrector, I'll tell you now?

Speaker 4:

That's how crazy it was, you know, but that's just what it was, man.

Speaker 1:

Like when I first heard the woo, like to me the motherfucker that stood out was Method man. Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying? Hell, yeah, it was Method man, and then it was Ghost, yeah, but I do remember I had been up on a jizz before that. I had the jizz, like before he really blew up like that. I remember a single, but it was kind of make. It wasn't pop shit, but it wasn't what the shit they was making with the woo. But anyway, I always remember listening to the RZA and feeling like this motherfucker off beat.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, like awkward, awkward flow.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying? Like he just said, you ain't even got to turn the beat on. I'm just going to come to this motherfucker and just rap what the fuck I want to rap, and y'all just piece the shit together.

Speaker 4:

You know what I'm saying, but somehow he made it work, though he did. I think he had the best work. His pen was like the Wu-Tang Forever.

Speaker 2:

I think that, yeah, hey, that's cool, it's dope, it was dope, but his shit was just like way off. I'm all like man, I can't I couldn't get.

Speaker 4:

I couldn't get jigged with this. I think master killer had a, had a uh, the production had to be a little slower for him and I think his pocket would have been right on point, you know because his voice is more like you know, melodic, more like more like like more laid-back kind of shit I think he would have. He would have said better.

Speaker 1:

So, speaking of such, you've been on the production side. When you, when you approach people with beats, do you just automatically say, well, put like this. What makes you say I'm gonna play this beat for this person compared to another person?

Speaker 2:

The main thing is their vocal tone. Any artist that either I reach out to or you know they reach back, or whatever, I usually ask like yo, send me your music.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

So that you know like I can hear what you sound like and shit yeah, and I'll just go off their vocal tone and from there, I'll start just making shit. That, Because you got to remember, your voice is an instrument too right? Yeah, definitely so it's got to be part of that piece of production and shit. So the vocal tone is very important for me Okay. It's one of the main things. If I can't, if I don't fuck with the vocal tone, then I can't really create out that I'm not gonna sugar coat anything, the vocal tone gotta be.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying you got that ear too so that's one of the main things who do you think has right now?

Speaker 1:

who do you think has one of the main things? And shit, yeah. Who do you think has right now? Who do you think has one of the illest voices in Chicago?

Speaker 2:

In Chicago.

Speaker 3:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

Damn Common.

Speaker 4:

Really yeah. I mean, I don't know, man, I think I would say Common, like on some hip-hop shit. I think he's the king of hip-hop man in Chicago.

Speaker 1:

Hey man, you know what hey?

Speaker 3:

bro, I say Common man.

Speaker 1:

Let me tell you something man. I've been getting clowned down here, First of all because Common's one of my all-time favorite MCs.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

But I'll also be saying that I think Common can act, and these motherfuckers always be saying they don't think Kami can act bro.

Speaker 4:

Kami was dope in American Gangster.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, he was dope in that, thank you. So that totally did you. Yeah, so you see, okay. So besides, kami just say like an up and coming, up and coming, yeah, misfit man, yeah, shout out to Misfit.

Speaker 3:

Misfit got like, yo like.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to Misfit. Yo, like Shout out to Misfit. First time I heard him Was at. Uh, I don't know if y'all know. P1.

Speaker 1:

I got it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, and I heard him. He had what? Six Sundays at Refuge. Yeah, okay, and I went to one of those Events and shit. And I think that was the first time I seen Misfit perform and right away the vocal tone. I'm all like yo, this dude sounds nice and shit. Yeah so my brain is like already like oh yeah, so I'm all like yo, this dude sounds nice, but with me I'm all like man.

Speaker 2:

You know what I think? Um, his voice would sound better slowed down and shit, cause he would kind of to be. He's really animated and shit with his delivery, but you know. I felt like slowing it down a little bit you sound better and shit for sure.

Speaker 1:

Hey, yo, we gotta take a break real quick. Hey, man, shout out to all the motherfuckers out there that got ill ass voices. But you know people be telling y'all to shut the fuck up and you got snapping them off. I'd be like, oh, shout out to my man, mr Misfit, y'all, it's the shiz. For all erotic needs and fantasy needs, please contact Cold Pleasures. That's C-O-L Pleasures dot com. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're now back at the shiz podcast and we in this motherfucker kicking it with the one and only my bro, stone Clocker, rob Caesar. So, rob Caesar, when it comes to beats, well, first of all, let me ask you this how did you get introduced to music? And also, how did you get introduced to the whole chicago music scene?

Speaker 4:

um, just um trying to find a way. Growing up, trying to find a way out of the like the gang shit, I was never like affiliated and nothing like that but I was with you know you was with them I mean, I wasn't with them.

Speaker 4:

I was from the. I'm from little village, so, like I'm, I'm always around that. But I didn't really want to deal with that. All we did was hoop. Listen to hip-hop, my man you know what I mean. That's how we kind of carved. Can you hoop, though Not anymore, my kneecaps just kind of you know what I'm saying but I could hoop before, you know yeah okay.

Speaker 4:

But yeah, in those days when I was like 18 and shit, that's all we did, man, like we were looking for alternatives to like not man, a lot of dudes we knew that weren't about that life fell victim to that life because, like they weren't strong enough to do something different it's like trying to be a like I don't want to drink, but I don't know what else to drink.

Speaker 4:

You got to know how, what to substitute it with right, right. So for us it was like hip-hop and and for me especially like man, like that new york hip-hop was crazy man like it was to the point where I was like yo man, like people were asking me like yo, you from new york? I'm like nah man, because I'm talking I'm talking. I'm doing everything. I'm mimicking everything I'm doing, everything like that. It was just like and, honestly, that type of stuff saved my life.

Speaker 3:

That's what's up. That's what's up, yeah that's what I love about it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So do you think this question's for both of y'all? Do you think, think it is a particular chicago sound, whether it be production, whether?

Speaker 2:

no way okay I think the only time that that I felt like chicago had a sound, was when it was.

Speaker 4:

When do or die do or die crucial conflict.

Speaker 2:

I would say, yeah, okay, that's what I felt like chicago was, but then afterwards like I think chicago is just the fucking a melting pot melting pot of a whole bunch of shit yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4:

And it's like like you can't, you can't say yo chicago, and think of one sound like nah, no way, you really no way well, I was about to say that at first I was gonna say drill, you know, I mean but but. But like look, you got you. I mean, all right, boom. Let's talk about giants, right, like Crucial Conflict Do or Die Common.

Speaker 3:

Lupe Fiasco.

Speaker 4:

Man, all those categories, right there, are completely different from each other.

Speaker 1:

That is true. So that's all greats, right, Kanye? All those people are great. You know what I'm saying? Chance.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Chance. Exactly, I think, like with Chance when he came along and dropped that mixtape, I don't want to necessarily say it defined a sound, but I think it kind of changed some shit up in my opinion.

Speaker 4:

It opened some shit up. There you go.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it opened some shit up it was just like yo.

Speaker 4:

He opened the lane for everybody to be like yo. If you ain't on some of this type of stuff, how about this? And then you got more MCs, more people like him, they feel like all right, boom, we could do that too, I can rhyme like that Exactly.

Speaker 2:

I think you see that a whole lot more.

Speaker 5:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Way more yeah.

Speaker 2:

When I go to these events I'm all like you can kind of hear that influence hear that influence.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, man, bro, like I ain't gonna lie to you, like, within the last couple of months, the events that I've been going to man, like I've been inspired, bro, uh, so it's motherfuckers out here like misfit yeah uh, rufus sims.

Speaker 1:

Uh, andres haley. Uh uh, jew jilla. Uh, I am god like these motherfuckers is spinning bro. Yeah, these motherfuckers is spitting bro, these motherfuckers is spitting. And the thing is, and then you got people such as yourself that's coming in and providing that production for them and it's, in my opinion, it's really, really helping out the culture, it's helping out the scene. You know what I'm saying, so I'm definitely appreciative of it. It kind of feel like it's a, a I don't want to get too out there, but like it's a renaissance coming. You know what I'm saying. That's how it kind of feel to me.

Speaker 5:

Maybe, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I hope so. You know what I'm saying. I hope so because it seems to me like nowadays, motherfuckers are really starting to focus more on lyrics.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying. I can see it Especially. I think you really see it more If you go to events and shit.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

When you go to events, I think you really get to see what it is that you're talking about yeah. Cause you can't see it from afar.

Speaker 1:

No, you gotta go to these events To check out these artists that are coming up and shit. When you go to these events and you hear somebody up in there and they spit some shit and they say a line, you'd be like damn, that shit was sick, you know what I'm saying. And then a motherfucker is able to consistently do that throughout their set, You'd be like oh yeah, I'm going to check Buddy out, Compared to just going somewhere where the only thing you hear is the beat.

Speaker 4:

That's what you was doing, and I peeped you out at the get-down. Oh okay okay With Ly the get down, oh okay on uh with. Or the lyric yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I had fun.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, it was like it was.

Speaker 4:

Like I'm. I'm in the back and I'm listening to the lines. I'm like damn and everybody behind me. They're just like damn just laughing and just while you're performing, laughing and just, but not laughing like like oh man, he's sparking like that's hilarious man, but like them, bar them, punches is coming in I appreciate it.

Speaker 1:

I appreciate it, man. I told larry bro, I said, man, that shit was put together so well. Yeah, you know, I'm saying like because it wasn't a lot of performance you know, I'm saying the dj was was, was was doing his thing, he was dope and it didn't drag out no, it was like.

Speaker 4:

It was like all right, you're going, you're going, you're going and boom, it's just constant.

Speaker 1:

You know, I'm saying so those are the best ones, yeah, yeah, so that's why I'll be looking at it, bro.

Speaker 1:

Like I'm at a point now, man, where I started to think, like everybody has a part to play the mcs, the producers, the curators because everybody got to work together yeah as a curator, you got to make sure your shit put together, but but as an artist, you got to come through and be like, hey, motherfucker, you said four songs, rock your four goddamn songs and step your ass off. And as a producer, you got to make sure you got them beats, because that's the shit that motherfuckers gravitate to.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, because we've been to shows where it's like you get one performer and then you get like 20 minutes and then that whole momentum that they built up you drop it, man, so the next artist it doesn't hit the same way.

Speaker 1:

No, it don't, and the motherfucker be mad.

Speaker 4:

Because you got to understand. It's like all right, boom, your style is a certain flavor, another artist, that's another flavor. But when you get it all together you're like man buzzing off that shit.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I yeah yeah, I mean like I'm actually eager and excited about where I see the shit going. You know what I'm saying and I just hope that I'm going to be honest with you. I just hope that the Chicago winter don't fuck up the momentum, because I mean, let's be honest, in Chicago, if you can get a motherfucker to come outside in the winter, you dope, you dope. I mean like shit, motherfuckers probably don't even go. Try to get pussy it's too cold.

Speaker 5:

It's too cold like shit.

Speaker 1:

It's cold, god damn it. You gotta have two friends over there anyway. When y'all start to think about, when y'all start to think about what these shows need to get better, what do you think they need?

Speaker 2:

They need some Latinos, man, man Latinos. I've been to a lot of shows. I started to really try to get out of my little box at home. I started really trying to get out of my little box at home, it started like seven years ago. Man, I've been to a shit ton of events and the one thing I do see is all like man, we need some Latinos in here man, yes, sir. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

I agree.

Speaker 2:

You know Latino is a big part of that hip hop community. It is, it is it is Not only that, but you know what I'm saying. I think it's also a big portion of you know. Artists always have trouble selling their you know whatever it is that they have to offer. And one thing I know for sure man is Mexicans we love to spend that money, man, hell yeah.

Speaker 4:

We work hard for it. We do too. So Hell yeah, we work hard for it.

Speaker 2:

We do too, so we love to spend that money and it's like man, we need more Latinos up in here, because now it's a whole mixture of all kind of ethnicities and shit. You know what I'm saying. So it's something for everybody.

Speaker 1:

It is. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

How do you think we do that, though I mean you got to tell us to come to this show.

Speaker 4:

You know what it is. I think, collaborating, collaborating, you know blending styles.

Speaker 5:

You know what?

Speaker 4:

I'm saying Like yo like, for example, like I love that answer bro, no-transcript. Everybody, we, we, you know, boom we we fuck with. It's like you sound like him right in this in a sense, right okay but once you start putting in like your own culture in there, like meaning rapping in English, and then half of that bar is in Spanish or the punchline is in Spanish.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

It's just like I'm bringing something different.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 4:

Right and I feel like that's what you need. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

I feel you, I feel you, hey yo, we got to take a break real quick. Hey, man, shout out to all the motherfuckers out there that be coming out to the shows man, we trying to get in for free and it only cost $7 to get in. Get your broke ass up out of here, man. Stay your ass at home. It's the Sheez, hey everybody.

Speaker 5:

It's comedian Stephanie Robertson with the Sheez. Come check it out. You can follow me on Instagram at Stephanie. I will see you there. Make sure to follow.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We are now back at the Shits Podcast. We're shooting the shit, starting some shit or picking up what you left off, and we're going to pick up what you left off. So during the break you know what I'm saying we were just shooting shit and we was talking about we brought up two names which I feel are staples in chicago hip-hop um tony baines and dirty mf. Uh, can y'all speak to y'all interactions and y'all relationships working with those two brothers?

Speaker 2:

um tony. Tony I met um. I met him when they were doing shows I don't know if it was tuesday or wednesdays at uh north park.

Speaker 4:

I think it was wednesdays, was it Wednesday? Yeah?

Speaker 2:

They were doing shows and they were doing like an open mic type of thing or whatever. Okay, and that was basically like when I was trying to get out you know what I'm saying and you know trying to see if I could play beats in front of people.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Trying to collaborate with artists and shit, and yeah and um. Yeah, I remember the first day I went I had brought a fucking I was still on that CD, shit man, you know what?

Speaker 5:

I'm saying I just let you know like I was, like I wasn't hip to none of that shit man and then Tony, you know he talking to shit.

Speaker 2:

He's like man. Like what the fuck is this? I'm more like bro, that's my beats man. He's like man, you better come next week and show them USB. Shit man.

Speaker 3:

I'm all like all right, I got you yeah.

Speaker 2:

So I came next week and I brought a USB and shit and then after I played the beats and shit, he was all like yo, what the fuck are you? I'm all like where the fuck you been at, type of shit you know, right, right, I'm all like at first. I'm all like what you mean, man Like I mean yeah, I thought I'm taking a negative way and shit.

Speaker 3:

Nah, I don't think it's a delivery, and shit.

Speaker 2:

And so, like man you know what man you coming with me, man.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to introduce you to people and shit. So I'm like, oh, okay, bet so like North Bar was like I would be there and freestyle playing beats, yeah, dirty. Yeah, I mean they were boys and shit. So you know, Dirty was there being a host and Dirty Dirty is a man, he's a showman.

Speaker 3:

Yes, yes.

Speaker 2:

Like he knows how to control the crowd like a motherfucker.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and he got the ill-ass voice too. Yeah, yeah, he got the ill-ass voice too.

Speaker 2:

He got the ill-ass voice bro, not only that, but the freestyle man. Oh man, I'm all like yo, you know he reminded me of. Was it Supernatural?

Speaker 1:

Supernatural.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm all like yo this dude's like Supernatural and shit, he can go, like he can.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, he don't stop.

Speaker 2:

I'm all like yo. That's fucking crazy.

Speaker 1:

That's a fucking skill set, bro, and it's like I think people don't really get that For somebody to just be able to get up there and just come straight off. You hear motherfuckers say they freestyling, but you know they boys be ad-libbing and shit like how'd you know?

Speaker 1:

but like I, I feel you in there, like the interesting part about what you said, man, it's like with tony bangs g, tony bangs is tony bangs. You know what I'm saying? Like ain't nobody that fucking know him. No, you, you, you don't know what the fuck you gonna get you know what I'm saying that motherfucker might throw in four compliments and two insults in the same fucking conversation.

Speaker 4:

You know what I'm saying that's for damn sure but, he'll compliment you and talk shit to you it's like yo.

Speaker 2:

I don't know how to take that.

Speaker 1:

You're like what the fuck you know what I'm saying. Whatever, right, yeah, fuck it, man, you know what I'm saying. But and then Dirty is a good brother too, man, so like they both.

Speaker 2:

They both are man yeah nah, I appreciate man, I appreciate both of them? Yeah, no doubt yeah, cause Dirty Dirty helped us out with our first like actual event yeah, yeah we did, uh, we did. What is it Winter Solstice.

Speaker 4:

The Winter Solstice? Yeah, we put a show together.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and we had that place fucking packed man yeah, and what was it again?

Speaker 4:

North Bar it's like yeah, it ain't even open. It's like Ashland and like what's the? It's not on North, it's.

Speaker 2:

Armitage, no, it's right on North Avenue.

Speaker 4:

Is it yeah? North End. Is it yeah, yeah, yup, yup, like maybe a few blocks, yup.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4:

It's a small spot.

Speaker 1:

Was that the old US Beer Company? No, okay, my bad.

Speaker 2:

And it was a Friday too right.

Speaker 4:

It was a Friday, Yup yup. Well, basically we kept having the show, like on a Wednesday, and then we're like man, you know, we got to get our people in here. Friday will be good, you know, definitely.

Speaker 5:

And he made that shit happen. He was like yo. Let me talk to the owner.

Speaker 4:

And then he made that shit happen and we didn't have to pay no venue or nothing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he just made it happen, yeah, man.

Speaker 3:

That's the plug.

Speaker 1:

That's definitely the plug. Yeah, he helped us out getting that shit man.

Speaker 2:

We appreciate that a lot man.

Speaker 1:

I want to talk about the project, the latest project, if I'm correct. I want to make sure I got the name right. Hold on my bad. The Last Vibe Fighter. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Why that name? Well, because well, first of all, you know what I'm saying. This is Stone Flaco, aka the vibe master and shit you know what. I'm saying Like I set the vibes of the fucking vibras and shit.

Speaker 3:

You know what?

Speaker 1:

I'm saying but I feel like it should have been more energy when you said that, but it's, it's all good it's all good.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, I was just trying to come up with a concept, man like and I think at that time I was trying to come up with like, uh like, an LOC for you know my business and shit, okay, and for some reason that shit.

Speaker 2:

Just um, it popped up you know in my head the vibe master and shit. Okay, so I ended up just making you know like a series of EPs and shit, just based off that. The reason why I did those beat tapes is a lot of the artists that I deal with are more like boom bap-ish type of artists and shit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, when I first started you know, coming out here and trying to network and shit, I dealt with some like more chappish beat artists and shit. Okay, but you know what I'm saying. Like it just wasn't clicking man, it was a lot of like gimme gimme and it wasn't like.

Speaker 3:

You know what I'm saying I don't want to speak to that.

Speaker 2:

There'll be times where, like they'll be like yo, send me some beats. I'll be like oh cool, I'll send you beats, like yo, let me know. At that point in time I wasn't recording and I would just tell them like yo man, like, let me know when you're going to record it. Like I want to just be there and shit nothing, and then sometimes they would drop the shit they wouldn't even tell me.

Speaker 2:

yeah man, I'm all like that's kind of fucked up man but, either way, even at that point, I was still like trying to learn the whole business aspect, though yeah I was doing this shit so I didn't really trip about it, or whatever I would have have those artists ain't even fucking doing no music no more.

Speaker 1:

So do you ever feel like you had beats where you was, like, hey, this dope shit, but I wasted it on this motherfucker right here. You ain't got to say names and shit. Well, nah, yeah, unless you want to.

Speaker 2:

But here's the thing, though, once I learned the business aspect of music, or somewhat, you know what I'm saying like, I'm all like yo that's still my beat they don't own it, they didn't. There's no agreement that it's theirs and shit. If anything, like you could say, they leased it for free, but it's still mine. I can still go back and use it and shit.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So, um you know, once I learned that I didn't really it didn't really bother me.

Speaker 1:

Okay, it's still yours.

Speaker 3:

Uh um now, I'm just particular on who I sent beats to.

Speaker 2:

I really don't.

Speaker 1:

Email beats to people, no more Like they got to come. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I know, do that shit they gotta they gotta come to the studio, man, because yeah, I think that's one of the best ways to actually get you know a feel a good sound you know what? I'm saying, sending beats is, you know, I don't know. I feel like it's just I just well, I mean, you know, obviously, if you fuck with a person, that's like you know, out of the city and shit.

Speaker 2:

I mean obviously. But if you're here in Chicago and shit and you want me to send you some beats, I'm more like nah, I'm not gonna send you shit, you gotta come to the studio bring some brew, motherfuckers, shit come through.

Speaker 1:

I think that makes a lot of sense. So, vibes, so Ross Caesar, so what what do you think is the main thing that make you and flocco have such a good chemistry?

Speaker 4:

um, probably the first, the friendship, because like I know him, he knows me, so it's like that, that's like a good chemistry builder so I would say that's probably the foundation and then from there it's just like I would say um, the trust, like.

Speaker 4:

I trust them as far as like yo, like, for example, he'll be like yo, I got this beat. I don't know if you're gonna like it or or I he. He'll be like man. You probably won't like it or whatever, but just trust me, try to write to it or try it so he's like try to test try to test me to try to find and I didn't really get that but, but what?

Speaker 4:

what ended up happening is? I found like my pocket you know I'm saying because of that so it was like I'm doing this, I'm doing that and then it's just like boom. So I would say that, like, chemistry is in the friendship that's what's up.

Speaker 1:

Hey, we're gonna take a break real quick and man shout out to all the motherfuckers out there man that be doing work, motherfuckers, they don't even like. They're gonna whoop their ass. Man. It Master Sheets.

Speaker 5:

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Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're now back at the Shiz Podcast and I'm in this bitch right now chilling with my man, stone Flacco and Raw Caesar All right, man. So we're going to take a little detour Not detour Kind of switch it up a bit. Ask somewhat of a serious question have you ever seen a healthy relationship?

Speaker 4:

Have I ever seen a healthy relationship?

Speaker 1:

Have you ever seen a healthy relationship?

Speaker 4:

As far as like.

Speaker 1:

Whether it be yeah, ah, hey, bro. I asked motherfuckers that question because of their response. Right there, bro, I can ask somebody hey man, you ever seen a nice car? You be like yeah, I done seen a motherfucking black Kia. You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, boy? I ask a motherfucker you ever seen a healthy relationship? They be like what you mean yeah that's crazy yeah you know it's crazy as fuck bro yeah because I always ask that question, because I think about it as people, as grown men.

Speaker 1:

They want us to have. We want to have healthy relationships, right, right. But the thing is how the fuck you know? If you haven't one, if you ain't never seen one, you don't even know what it look like maybe in the movies you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 4:

But even that shit is subjective exactly you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

So my thing is, I just always try to get motherfuckers to like think about that. You know what I'm saying because I'm a father. I was about to say I was a husband but, that's a whole nother story. That's a whole nother pot, but that's a whole nother pot. But I think about that man because, like with my kids, I want my kids to be able to recognize healthy and unhealthy relationships. You see what I'm saying. So a lot of times motherfuckers will base it off of duration. Oh, these people have been together 40 years.

Speaker 4:

That don't mean it's healthy. Exactly that, don't fucking mean that it's healthy. There's a lot of people that just stay together, man, but you know what? But they're miserable.

Speaker 1:

Exactly, it's not fucking healthy.

Speaker 2:

You think there's like you think it's, such a thing as a healthy relationship.

Speaker 1:

I think so.

Speaker 2:

Because it could be a healthy relationship. It could become unhealthy and then become healthy again.

Speaker 4:

I think it's cultural. For example, on the Mexican side, I feel like there's a lot of people that stay together through some bullshit, straight bullshit. But you can't separate because it's not common to do that shit, so you got to stay with the bullshit.

Speaker 3:

You got to stick it out, it's frowned upon.

Speaker 4:

So it's like well, yeah, yeah, I'm happy.

Speaker 1:

But I'm not really happy. I'm not really fucking happy.

Speaker 4:

Exactly. So it's like, well, yeah, yeah, I'm happy, but I'm not, I'm not really happy, I'm not really fucking happy, exactly. But culturally it's just like you feel the pressure that, nah, you don't do that type of shit, right. But it's like yo. But what about me? I ain't happy. Oh, I got kids, I got it, don't matter, don't fucking matter.

Speaker 1:

It doesn't fucking matter, bro, and that's, that's the part that I think. That that's the part that I think that when people start to kind of like go against that, that's when motherfuckers start to feel uncomfortable. You see what I'm saying, because it's like damn.

Speaker 4:

I feel like when people think, like that they got a whole bunch of people that shouldn't be in their lives and shit, Like you got too many friends. You got too many family, Like yo, not all your family members is cool with you Not at all. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1:

family- like yo, not all your family members is cool with you like not at all.

Speaker 4:

I'm saying like not at all, bro, you know. So it's like you got too many people with within the circle. Like yo, you gotta like nah, I ain't doing I can't do it.

Speaker 1:

I can't do it. I use I hate using the word can't, I don't want to do it. That's how I look at it. And then I look at it like man for men. I'm an advocate for men, you know I'm saying I'm an advocate for women too, but I'm definitely advocate for men. You know what I'm saying? I'm an advocate for women too, but I'm definitely an advocate for men. But it's like because I feel like a lot of times men get the short end of the stick emotionally bro.

Speaker 3:

You see what I'm saying Because you ain't supposed to feel shit. You see what I'm saying, your ass, come home from work.

Speaker 1:

You did eight hours. You got all this shit on your mind. Nobody want to hear that shit. Yeah, fix the car, god damn it. Yeah, fix the light. You know what I'm saying. The door off, the hinges, fix that shit. You know what I'm saying. You like, hey, can I tell you about? I ain't trying to hear that shit yeah, you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 4:

like I tell my girl, like when I come home and shit like I need, like he she knows, even if I'm upset or whatever, it's just like hey, give me 15 minutes, 10 minutes, let me just bag this shit, relax and then I'm good. Yeah, and then I'm chilling.

Speaker 3:

All right, cool, I'll do that, I'll do that or whatever, there you go, you got to do it.

Speaker 4:

But if I'm going to do it like right, going through a door and she barking on me, oh hell no Nah, I heard a motherfucker say men ain't supposed to say what she?

Speaker 1:

said what the fuck? She said. She said if your ass is trying to heal, why are you out here dating? She said, for a man. She said if you a man and you call yourself trying to heal, why are you out here dating? And I thought about it. I mean, she wasn't talking about me, you know what I'm saying. But like I thought about this shit, I was like hold on. I was about to ask her. I said well, wait, so you mean to tell me, if a dude is like going through some shit, that he shouldn't be dating a motherfucker? She was like well, no, why not? You see what I'm saying? Like I don't get that. She was like men have. Because, she said, men have become soft. She said y'all motherfuckers talk about y'all feelings too much. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

She might just be watching too much IG. Man, you know what I'm saying. I don't know man I mean, I think, I mean maybe. I mean I don't know if I'm right, but maybe a healthy relationship is a honest relationship. You know what I'm saying. It doesn't mean that it's going to be fucking a game. You know what I'm saying. I agree. I think there's.

Speaker 4:

It ain't supposed to be.

Speaker 2:

It ain't supposed to be you gotta like, I think, any type of like truth, like.

Speaker 4:

It just can't go overboards. Yeah, right, the limits, like as long as it stays between the limits, it's healthy, yeah, but if it goes overboard, right then it's just like damn, like the respect is gone that's, that's that part.

Speaker 1:

I think that when it gets to the point where you can't communicate with a motherfucker, yeah, that's when it becomes unhealthy because, like I always tell people, I feel, like I think that the way you create a healthy relationship is that you become comfortable having uncomfortable conversations. You see what I'm saying. Like you're not gonna always like what I'm saying to you, but you gonna know that I can say anything to you and I'm gonna know that you can say anything to me, so I'm more likely to believe what the fuck you said, because I feel like you can say whatever to me. You know, don't call me out my motherfucking name, cause then that's a whole different story. You know what I'm saying, but we can have those conversations, but I just think that in this day and age, a lot of motherfuckers ain't there G and and it ain't just men I think it's a lot of women, a lot of women. Yeah, that ain't fucking there yet. You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 4:

They look at you like Women will be like man. They gotta be self-empowered, right. But I ain't never heard a man say like no man says yo, I don't need a man, I don't need a girl, I don't need a girl, right, like I don't need a man, like I don't need that shit.

Speaker 1:

But the women will say that I heard a man say that, but then it was a whole different type of man. But go ahead though.

Speaker 4:

No, I'm saying like no, pause.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying. No, ditty.

Speaker 4:

You know what I'm saying? No ditty. You know what I'm saying? Oh man, how the fuck did the ditty get in there?

Speaker 5:

Now it's a cutting comeback.

Speaker 1:

Come on, man, we've broken a little bit, my bad, but go ahead. What would you say? What would you?

Speaker 5:

say we all good, we all freaking bad.

Speaker 4:

What would you say Go ahead? I'm just saying go ahead. I'm just saying like men, don't say like yo, I don't need a woman.

Speaker 2:

We don't you know what I'm saying? We don't say that we don't, so we just don't.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I'm saying, but I'm saying I've met a lot of guys that want to just say I don't want a woman.

Speaker 2:

But they didn't know, how to say it because their homies. Yeah, that could be, right yeah, you say something like that, I'll be like no, no, no.

Speaker 4:

but I'm saying I'm saying I don't want none of these girls tonight we, in front of 100 girls, I'm saying like as a girl, to like to boss up chick, right, I don't need no man, I don't need no man. Right, I don't need no man.

Speaker 1:

Guys, don't say that shit.

Speaker 4:

We don't, we don't, we don't say it, we don't, we don't even. We don't say that, we don't say that that's never even awesome, like yo, I'm getting mad. Nah, we don't say that, we don't say it.

Speaker 1:

Don't say that no, we don't need her to stay all night, but you know what? I'm saying I don't need you to stay all night. You know what I'm saying. But it's cool for you to come over.

Speaker 4:

But but that's what I'm saying. Like yo, if a man, all right, boom, you got a strong man. Yo the woman's going to hold shit down, right, so the men will play that role, but it's like I don't know if the women will give the man that credit though that part.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying that part, and then when dudes bring that shit up, then they label it as toxic masculinity. That's crazy though you be like wait, what the fuck?

Speaker 4:

That's crazy yeah.

Speaker 1:

So that's why I said I'm an advocate for men. You know what I'm saying. Like, I love women. You're going to ever hear me say I don't need a woman. If you do hear me say that, slap your shit up. Not with no baby oil, though, no, diddy. Hey yo, we're gonna take a break real quick. Hey man, shout out to all the motherfuckers Out there man that said they don't need no woman and I can't go there Cause I get canceled. No, it's just a podcast. It's the shits. Yo, it's Griffin Checking in from Inglewood. Motherfucker, you know I'm with the shits. We're not back at the shits podcast. We were shooting the shit, starting some shit. That last one, I think we started some shit, or picking up a shit left off. So, as y'all can see right here, we got the, the artwork, and this project is called Vibes in Pink, right. So can you tell us about this project right here?

Speaker 2:

Vibes in Pink man, that's just like another. I mean, here's the thing, man, I go out of the box all the time and shit. I don't just make fucking them grimy. Fucking boom, bap-ish type of beats. You know what I'm saying. I got pop records. I got that's the zone. I got throne records. I've made fucking rock-ish type of stuff.

Speaker 3:

Okay For like a rock singer.

Speaker 2:

So you know for me this is just like another, you know, like another branch of you know, letting people know like yo, I make this type of shit.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

And plus it's fun for me and it's also like I need to get this shit out because I don't want to just keep the shit like okay just because, I'm not working with certain types of artists, and shit doesn't mean I just got to keep it in the drive. So you know, this is just like another outlet for me to put the shit that I want to put out.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

But that that kind of is a lot of the shit that I do. Man, if people pay attention, I do a lot of like movie references and shit.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so that one. I kind of picked up on that with the joint with the EP that you did with Misfit, like some of the samples that was in the year.

Speaker 2:

The beat tapes. I do a lot of like. A lot of the inspiration comes from the movies and shit, the names of the songs, the sounds. The sounds are very retro-ish and, you know, like heavy synthesizers and shit like that, but that one is more of like. I'm thinking like man, if they would have made Pretty in Pink you ever seen that movie With Molly Ringwald, yeah, yeah. If they would have made that movie you know today, like, how would the soundtrack sound like?

Speaker 1:

Ah, okay, I see now, I see now, that's dope.

Speaker 2:

That's dope. I try to do that and then you know, just kind of have fun with it, man.

Speaker 1:

So that's dope, I try to do that and then, you know, just kind of have fun with it, man. So what do you want people to get from that? Like, what do you want people to walk away from after hearing that?

Speaker 2:

just good vibes, man that's what's up? I don't, I don't put a lot of like expectations on it, just yo. Just like you know, for me this is just an outlet.

Speaker 3:

For me this is just an outlet for me. Okay for me to just keep putting different shit out you know yeah I like working with different artists.

Speaker 2:

You know me and raw got a whole bunch of shit out okay so we're always dropping shit. We're always putting out all kinds of music out there, but for me this is just another outlet okay, so what can we look, what can we expect from raw?

Speaker 4:

the next project yes, sir oh, got Cronicas de la 31st. That's again goes back to the Lil Village stuff okay just the inspiration shit. We've been through, you know, at some point we were all by 31st okay.

Speaker 2:

I was by Kevin on 31st. He was on.

Speaker 4:

Pulaski. Pulaski in 31st and then we had our other friend that lived John.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, john was on 31st. By the way, john is the one that makes the cover for everything he makes all the videos and shit and the whole thing is like yo, we're all childhood friends, man, so you know like how you talking about earlier that that fucking, that connection is, like you know.

Speaker 1:

Bro, it means something, it's there, I'm all like yo.

Speaker 2:

I come to John with some shit up and I'll be coming to him with some like scattered fucking ideas and he put it together, You'll be like I got it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying Like you got medals and motherfucker, like that. Like when you come with some shit, you be like oh man, I got a vision.

Speaker 1:

It's a zebra and the zebra is like standing right next to a motherfucking mongoose and then he's like man, all right, I got you. That's a beautiful fucking thing. All right, I got another serious question, man. So here's the situation. It goes for both of y'all man. So y'all chilling, so I'm we're going to make exceptions for y'all current status right now and just say you chilling with a chick that you really wanted to get up with right and you got her at your crib. You finally got her to your crib right and over her left shoulder. It's a roach, oh damn, over her right shoulder it's a roach, oh damn.

Speaker 1:

Over her right shoulder. It's a mouse. Which one are you going to try to distract her from? The roach or the mouse?

Speaker 4:

God damn, god damn.

Speaker 2:

It's my house.

Speaker 1:

It's yours yeah.

Speaker 4:

It's my house, it's your, yeah, it's your house, man. I would say the mouse, because it might be less than the roach or some shit, I don't know man, that's crazy.

Speaker 2:

I'll just be like man. You know what we? Gotta go, we gotta go, I'll just be like man don't even worry about that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he said don't even worry about it, he's like yo it's all good, I'll be like yo.

Speaker 2:

People believe the trash outside man it's their fault it's their shit happens.

Speaker 4:

That's a no win right there it's ain't me it's my fault, it's the neighbors shit be happening.

Speaker 1:

I love to ask motherfuckers that question, because the thing is it's about perception. What does? What does a roach symbolize in somebody's house?

Speaker 4:

nasty. What does a mouse symbolize?

Speaker 1:

same shit it depends on who you talk to, cause some people may feel like shit. Well, if it's winter, everybody can have mice. You get what I'm saying. It depends on who you talk to, because some people may feel like shit. If it's winter, everybody can have mice. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4:

I can see that you live in an apartment complex. Yeah, you can't control that. Maybe you can't control that.

Speaker 2:

Me and my girl lived in an apartment complex at some point and motherfuckers would leave their trash outside the door and shit yeah. And unfortunately we had a fucking little mouse in our apartment. Yeah, so it's like sometimes it really it's not my fault and shit.

Speaker 1:

It's like that's what you want to say to her.

Speaker 2:

It ain't my fault. Look at my trash. Look at the sink Like it's clean and shit. It's not me and shit.

Speaker 1:

It's the neighbors. It's the neighbors.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think it depends too on the circumstances, man. But if you got shit laying around and it's like you, then it's your fucking fault, man.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2:

You a dirty motherfucking man.

Speaker 1:

All right, flaco top five producers dead or alive.

Speaker 2:

First, one First one got to be Alchemist man.

Speaker 4:

Dang Okay.

Speaker 2:

I think that's. You know what I'm saying. I think right after that got to be Kanye, after that got to be RZA Okay, old RZA though not the new. Rza. Okay, no RZA, though Not the new.

Speaker 1:

RZA, Appreciate it bro Um.

Speaker 4:

Not the new RZA.

Speaker 2:

Nah hell, nah man.

Speaker 1:

He said nah, fuck that shit.

Speaker 2:

Um fourth one gotta be, oh shit. That was right on time. The fourth one gotta be oh shit, you know what I'm gonna put just Blaze in there. I'm trying to name all the producers that I tried to copy at some point.

Speaker 3:

I was just like fucking with it and the fifth one.

Speaker 2:

I'm trying to name all the producers that I tried to copy at some point. I was just fucking with it. It beats heavy. And the fifth one. Fifth one got to be Motherfucking Metro man. Oh, metro Boomin, Okay okay okay, I like a lot of his shit, man, a lot of his shit.

Speaker 1:

All right, Raw Season. Five top MCs dead or alive, Damn.

Speaker 2:

Man, that's tougher man, that's tough.

Speaker 1:

That's tough, I'm going to have to say A lot of dead MCs.

Speaker 4:

Slick.

Speaker 1:

Rick, oh Slick, rick, you went back, boy.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, slick Rick Clums, yeah, yeah, yeah, slick rick, um, yeah, yeah, and again that his tone, his, he gotta have the wildest tone like his tone is nasty.

Speaker 1:

Uh, prodigy ah, we were just talking about that the other day uh, man, I might have to AZ.

Speaker 4:

Damn Gotta go Nas.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 4:

And then Shit man. Can I put Ray and Ghost together?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, ray and Ghost together. Man, that's dope, that's dope, that's dope. Yeah, my top five Dylon, dylon, dylon, dylon, dylon, dylon, dylon. Hey, man, hey, yo check it out, that's dope as fuck, because you said Prodigy G.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

We was just in the studio the other day, man and my man, Andres Haley, was pointing out actually Andres and Mr Misfit was pointing out how he doesn't sound like he's rapping no, he's talking. He just sound like he's rapping. No, he's talking, he just sound like he fucking talking bro, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

He gotta have one of the illest voices Illest, illest, illest, just sound dope. Hey yo, let's take a break real quick. And man shout out to all the motherfuckers out there man that's drinking a couple of beers and kind of getting lit, Nigga it's me of getting lit, nigga it's me, it's the Shits Podcast. Man, it's the Shits.

Speaker 5:

It's comedian Marnie P Checking in from the Shits Podcast.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, we are now back at the Shits Podcast man, and we in this motherfucker right now man, we kicking it, just shooting shit. My man Stone Flacco and Raw Caesar man shout out to my man P man. Hey, as an MC, I am a fan of MCs who rap, who MCs who rhyme, like they not rapping. If that makes sense, you get what I'm saying. I'm a huge fan of Fonte from Little Brother. He does not sound like he not rapping. If that makes sense, you get what I'm saying. Like I'm a huge fan of like Fonte from Little Brother and he does not sound like he's rapping. It sounds like he's talking.

Speaker 1:

You get what I'm saying and I personally believe that when people can do that type of shit, it makes it more relatable and it kind of adds more of a punch to it because you feel it more.

Speaker 4:

That could be the production too. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that could be the production, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like to be in that pocket. Yeah, To be in that pocket.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's fucking dope. I love it man.

Speaker 3:

I love it.

Speaker 1:

I love the shit that I do, man. Okay, hold on, that's what we're getting on. All right, y'all. So this portion of the show is the game portion, and this week's contestants is my man, stone Flacco and Ross Caesar, and the game this week is 4 for 4. It's simple, it's easy to do. Here's the thing, though If you hear another motherfucker doing this shit on any podcast, slap the shit out their ass, because we don't do that shit on podcasts. I know it's real easy to do. All right. So, basically, all I'm going to do is man, I'm going to give y'all a word or a phrase, and you got to respond with four words. You got to respond with four words, alright. So yeah, raw season your word is commitment.

Speaker 4:

I'm always with it for sure. I'm always with it. Wait, I'm always with it for sure.

Speaker 1:

I'm always with it. Wait, I'm always with it. I'm always with it. K-pop for sure.

Speaker 4:

I'm always with it.

Speaker 1:

Stone Flocker Wack Rappers damn Whack rappers Damn, damn.

Speaker 2:

Try a little harder. There, you go.

Speaker 1:

Damn there you go, damn there you go. There you go, there you go. Okay, raw Caesar.

Speaker 4:

Black Air Force Ones.

Speaker 1:

Damn, I can't trust them fools okay, okay, okay, stone flock up, oh shit, stone Flock up, uh, oh shit.

Speaker 3:

Mushrooms.

Speaker 2:

Mushrooms, mushrooms like, like, mushrooms that you cook with Mushrooms psychedelics. I don't be taking.

Speaker 1:

I don't be taking Damn. Damn, damn I don't be taking All right Raw Caesar, yeah, dirty socks.

Speaker 4:

Funky motherfuckers around me.

Speaker 1:

Wait, funky motherfuckers around Can't be around me. All right, funky motherfuckers around Can't be around me. All right Stone Flock up Chicago hip hop.

Speaker 2:

Chicago hip hop Um oh Shit.

Speaker 4:

We got next boy, we got next boy, we got next boy we got next.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's the soundbite. Never forgot how to rap. Never forgot how that's 5 though never forgot how to rap. That's 5. Appreciate that that was dope alright. Raw season Appreciate that that's dope Alright.

Speaker 4:

Raw season. Subject matter Always important to me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, that's what's up. Hey, man, listen y'all. The name of the game's up. Hey, man, listen y'all. The name of the game is motherfucking 4 for 4. My man, ralph Caesar, and that stone blocko has fucking killed that shit.

Speaker 1:

Y'all heard it right here on the motherfucking Shits Podcast. If y'all hear somebody else doing that shit, slap their ass with a motherfucking beer and an old sock. You know what I'm saying, because they're fighting the shit. Hey, we'll be back, wrap this shit up. This is your podcast, man. Y'all heard it here. And don't you even try to try to bite our shit. Right, and what is it? It's all about the shits. Either you the shit or you not. And when you the shit, you got the ism, you got the realism, whatever other words you want to use and you put ism on it. You the shit of that. Yeah, we're in that back of the shit podcast, man. Hey, y'all check it out.

Speaker 1:

Man, I got to be honest with y'all. I had a really motherfucking nice time, man, with these two brothers up here. Man, my man Ross Caesar, my man Stone Fl and yo just getting y'all point of views on certain shit. Man, it's just very refreshing, man, real talk, and I'm really looking forward to what y'all are going to do for Chicago's hip-hop culture, or the hip-hop culture in general, but mainly Chicago's hip-hop culture. Real talk, man. Let the people know what y'all got coming up and where they can find y'all. All that bro.

Speaker 2:

Shit we got man. We got so much shit Coming up man. So we got Gronica's De La 31st we got fucking. We got Vibes in Pink Coming out. We got Trapper Slater Coming out we got fucking.

Speaker 3:

We got.

Speaker 2:

Part 2 Coming out we got, motherfucking got fucking. We got part two coming out. We got motherfucking. What else we got?

Speaker 4:

Mr Castle, part two and shit Mr.

Speaker 2:

Castle part two Yup, we got that project coming out.

Speaker 4:

You know. Look at that Palabra on the Jesus piece.

Speaker 2:

Palabra.

Speaker 4:

Stones later.

Speaker 2:

We got projects with a boy, tony, from El Paso, yup stones. Later we got projects with uh boy uh tony from el paso. Yep, we got shit with him coming out. We got shit with uh dynasty coming out. Man, we just dropped the project with uh dynasty diamante negro yeah, diamante negro, that just shots of dynasty video just dropped yesterday. Um, you know, I'm saying, uh shit, I got like three more beat tapes. Man, it's a lot of shit, man it's a lot of shit working.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying, man. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

You working.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we working man. You know what I'm saying. I'm inspired, I'm going to estimate us, man, because our marketing game is getting up there, man, I fucking see it I fucking see it.

Speaker 1:

That's the I don't want to say the last hurdle but it's like yo.

Speaker 2:

That's going to be the hurdle, that's next and shit man. So that marketing game that's going to come.

Speaker 1:

You got to, like you really got to, but I'm coming to realize that that's very important.

Speaker 2:

That marketing is very fucking important.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

You could almost say, like that's probably even more important than the fucking music because it goes hand in hand. The music. The music is just, you know, it's fun, it's shit, it's creative, like you can do it all day, man. But the marketing part is so fucking difficult. Yeah, the art can't fly without the business to have a plan behind it and you know it takes a lot of time to learn how to market yourself, how to fucking. You know run campaigns and how much money to spend.

Speaker 3:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

Like that, Like it's a lot of information, man, and you know, and I feel like that's what a lot of artists lack, and shit is the ability to try to learn the marketing aspect of this music shit. You know what I mean. You're spending money on it, either you're spending money on the album.

Speaker 4:

That shit's annoying though. That shit's annoying, that shit's annoying.

Speaker 2:

It is you know what, and I get why some people just stop and shit.

Speaker 4:

Turned off by that shit.

Speaker 2:

Because it, because it's such a fucking like, it's a monster man, it's a whole nother monster that you gotta conquer and shit.

Speaker 1:

I just look at shit and I feel like I go to shows, like I host shows and shit like that, and I be seeing motherfuckers that had like six chains on them, like for real, bro, like I be seeing motherfuckers that had like six chains on. I'd be like, bro, you could've invested. You could've just settled with three of them, bitches, you know what.

Speaker 1:

I'm saying and put that money into a campaign, bro, you could have. Hey, unless you a 70s pimp, you don't need six chains, bro, you really don't. You really just need one. You know what I'm saying. A good one, a real one. You know what I'm saying. A good one, a real one. You know what I'm saying, a real one, you know. Like you don't need to say fake ones you know what I'm saying. Right, right, right, but that's just my opinion. Raw Caesar, what's up next for you, bro?

Speaker 4:

Man, we got, like you said, the Crónicas de la 31st. That's a dear project, you know. Outside of that man, I'm just collaborating, trying to push my slangoneada rap, which is like something phrased as far as like speaking in Spanish and English, rapping in Spanish and English and shit like that. You know what I mean, because it's like this shit is not just for, let's say, mexicans Like nah man.

Speaker 5:

I don't do my shit for that it's for whoever gravitates to it.

Speaker 4:

You know what I'm saying, so I'm trying to yeah, I'm trying to open it up for everybody, man, like you know. So Slangoneada rap, that's what I'm trying to push.

Speaker 3:

It's Slangoneada season, so appreciate the invite no problem, have fun with you guys and and shit and man, I'm glad y'all came through.

Speaker 4:

And just I'm just collaborating with the city man, Like whoever wants to get down, I'm with it. You know, and you can find me on IG R-A-C-E-S-A-R underscore Vuelo V-U-E-L-O.

Speaker 1:

You know, that's it. Vuelo Talk man I don't know who need to hear this but realize your triggers. You know what I'm saying. Because if you don't realize your triggers, you don't realize the shit that's either keeping you at the same spot or the shit that's protecting you. You know what I'm saying. You gotta realize the shit I'm not saying that they bad.

Speaker 1:

I'm not saying that they good, I'm saying that they're there. God damn it. You know what I'm saying. So stop acting like they're not there. Don't ignore them. Don't ignore them. You see what I'm saying. A motherfucker, you, a motherfucker, hang up the phone on you.

Speaker 4:

That's Palauda, right there. You see what was it. That's word, that's word.

Speaker 1:

That's word that the dumbest question is the one you don't ask. You know what I'm saying. Real talk. But yeah, realize your triggers, bro. It ain't shit wrong with having them, because everybody goes through some shit. You see what I'm saying and that's the shit that make you. But the thing is you gotta realize the motherfuckers is there, bro. Like for me, I ain't gonna lie to you. If a motherfucker don't answer my motherfucking text that day, hey bro, you might get deleted, god damn it yo, I done that, I done that.

Speaker 4:

But it's like you gotta have that patience to let people go through their shit and then it's like boom, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2:

you might get deleted, bro you might get deleted yo that shit said, red man, like you read thank you.

Speaker 1:

You see what I'm saying. But I had to realize, man, that's the trigger for me. You know what I'm saying and Somebody had to put me up on it, like you may have missed out On a great opportunity Because you jumped the gun. You see what I'm saying. So I had to realize that it's all good, but don't, motherfucker, don't read my shit there, don't respond to my fucking text. I'm just waiting for you. Also, y'all, make sure y'all check it out.

Speaker 1:

October 12th, saturday at Subterranean. Y'all check out my man, mr Misfit, and my man, andres Haley, performing at Sub T. Y'all, make sure y'all come through and check it out. And I'm gonna leave y'all with this make fans not followers. Followers will get you clout, but fans will get you work. God damn it. Trust the process. Realize that the only thing that happens overnight is dreaming and slobbing. And, man, believe in yourself, have passion, have purpose, and y'all can check out the Shits Podcast on Spotify, google Podcast, anywhere you can get your motherfucking podcast from. You can find the Shits Podcast and shout out to the motherfucking pickpockets. Y'all, hey, y'all, I'm hollering at y'all next week. Shout out to my man, deck of Dirts, because without Deck of Dirts, none of this shit would be possible. Man, shout out to my man Raw Seasons for coming through, my man Stone Flocker for coming through, and man, y'all be cool. Peace, peace, peace.