The S.H.I.T.T.S Podcast
The S.H.I.T.T.S Podcast
Embracing the Divine Feminine: Songwriting, Vulnerability, and Hilarious Speed Dating Tales with Jenee Jones and Tandaleria
What role does the divine feminine play in songwriting, and how does it impact the emotional depth of today’s music? Join us in an intimate conversation with talented vocalists Jenee Jones and Tandaleria as they share their personal and artistic journeys. We promise you'll walk away with insights on authenticity, resilience, and how setting boundaries can fuel creative growth. Listen as they recount their friendship's evolution into a creative partnership and how those experiences have shaped their careers. Jenee and Tandaleria also provide a candid look at the music industry, sharing tales like Jenee's challenging yet transformative first studio session.
Our discussion takes an emotional turn as we explore the dynamics of relationships and songwriting. Jenee and Tandaleria offer their perspectives on how the lack of emotional depth in today’s music is linked to the underrepresentation of women in the studio, touching on the importance of vulnerability and its portrayal in songs, especially from a male perspective. We delve into past relationship fears and lessons, emphasizing the joy and growth that can arise from embracing vulnerability. The conversation tackles recognizing when to move on from unfulfilling connections, an essential skill in both personal and professional realms.
Prepare for laughter as we venture into hilarious speed dating stories and the creative process behind crafting a Speed Dating series. From fashion faux pas to dating app escapades, these anecdotes highlight the need for emotional intelligence and communication in relationships. We round things off with jovial moments discussing personal aspirations, musical influences, and a lively "4 for 4" game that challenges our quick thinking. Stay connected with us on our social media channels for upcoming projects and releases, and gain a fresh perspective on the value of time and personal growth.
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Yo, yo, what up, what up, what up y'all. It's your boy, monson Starat. It's the Shits Podcast, where we're either shooting the shit, starting some shit or picking up what's left off. I'm your host, monson Starat, the coolest cat you heard thus far, aka DJ Booty Rubber, like no other. If you don't believe me, man, go ask your mother and man check it out this week, tell y'all everybody that come on. The podcast is special and it ain't like slow special. You know cheese bus back of the bus. Special. You know what I'm saying. This is special, special, but everybody is special. But anyway, this week I have the pleasure of talking to two phenomenal vocalists who have a dope song. Like song is dope, it's soulful, I want to say it's seductive. Damn, it's a lot, it's a lot. I definitely think it's something y'all should check out. Y'all make sure y'all put y'all hands together for the one, the onlys, because it's two of them Jhene Jones and Tendulia.
Speaker 2:Thank you, what up? How y'all feeling I'm good. How are?
Speaker 1:you. Good, I can't complain. I can't complain, not at all, not at all. Before I go any further, I do want to give some shouts out to anybody out there that feel like they need counseling or some type of therapy. It's a number you can call. So the number is 708-524-2582. So you can call the number 24-7. If you just feel like you need somebody to talk, to call the number, because I feel like mental health is very important and sometimes, like in our community, in the black community, you know, we try to be so shy about it or prideful. You know what I'm saying, but sometimes you can be fucked up.
Speaker 1:Y'all need somebody to talk to. So if you need somebody to talk to, call that number y'all straight up. Also, mad shout outs to GNMC clothing dope clothing hoodies, hats, t-shirts, sweats. Make sure y'all check them out. Google it, g n, m, c clothing bram. You can also find them on um instagram. Yeah, on instagram, um, and just hit them up. So, with that being said, tanda leah and janae jones all right, I'll always like to do a check-in with our guests. So, since y'all are the phenomenal guests this week, how y'all week?
Speaker 2:ma'am, I've had a pretty good week, mr Booty Rubber. It's been a good week. It's been a good week.
Speaker 1:It's been a good week, all right. So I know y'all artists because I heard y'all work. When I ask this question, I think people think about it in a different way. When I ask you what you're working on, I don't mean what you're working on in the studio. I mean what you're working on with yourself emotionally and mentally, what y'all working on this week.
Speaker 2:Okay, should I go first? Sure, yeah, go ahead. Okay, what I have been working on this week and it's interesting that you say that, because either type of conversations- Tenderly and I have all the time. One of the things that I am working on is making sure that I am being vocal and showing up for myself a hundred percent. I don't care who don't like it. I'm going to be respectful and saying what I need to say, but I absolutely placing boundaries and it is what it is.
Speaker 1:I like to hear that. I mean like, I think it's, I think it's necessary. Everybody needs to have their boundaries. I like the fact that you said it respectfully. I'm not trying to take anything away from you, but this is how I roll. If you can't honor that, then respectfully get the fuck on that's real this week.
Speaker 2:I am working on keeping it together. That's what I'm working on. I had to clean up, get my space together so I can get my mind together, so I can just be together. Basically, that's what's up. That's what's up. Yeah, that's what's up?
Speaker 1:I appreciate that. I appreciate that. So my first question is where?
Speaker 2:y'all from. I'm from Chicago, okay.
Speaker 1:What's that?
Speaker 2:What's that? What's that Today is from Gary.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, that's what's up. I was looking at the background.
Speaker 2:I'm like they don't look like Gary, but I know that's the thing Wait, wait, wait, not too much now Not too much, it's all good, it's all good.
Speaker 2:How did y'all get started performing and creating music? Well, a few well, I don't want to say a few quite a few years ago at this point, I actually met Tan at one of our mutual friends. At her performance she sang somewhere and I was asked to do background vocals for her, and I did, and I saw somebody come out of the crowd and it was Tan, and she walked up to me and said hey, my name is Tan.
Speaker 2:I'm sessions with Tan and Leah and and we hit it off from there and we have been friends ever since and it's been a pleasure making music with her.
Speaker 1:That's dope. Yeah, I can hear the strings in the background, the music playing in the background. I'm like awesome Individually. Can y'all remember y'all first studio session.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, I can.
Speaker 1:It was very interesting.
Speaker 2:Yes, I can, it was. Oh, it was very interesting, um, cause it was my vocal director from high school. She ended up being my vocal coach and one of my first sessions it was more so tracking was with her and her partner and it got real ugly cause he never I had to pay all his money and he never gave me the beat that he was making and it became a whole ordeal. But it wasn't a good experience not been a great experience, but that was more of a tracking session and, uh, my actual first studio session. I was just really nervous. Okay it was fun.
Speaker 2:I remember being really, really, really, really nervous when I actually was recording. I'm like oh, this is different. That was a long, that was like in 2011. Yeah, like 2011.
Speaker 1:So what do you find yourself doing differently now compared to that first session?
Speaker 2:Well one. I have a lot more resources, so I don't have to be like let me pay you and then chase you down for my beat. I don't got to do that anymore. So there's that. So that's gone. I'm not as nervous, more so because I understand it.
Speaker 2:And then now from then to now. I'm also a recording engineer, so now I also completely understand the ins and outs of everything, because I remember my first project that I released the mix is awful and I didn't. I remember being proud of it right at the time and then into it like, oh, this is not hidden right, and not knowing why. And then I had to, you know, took some years, learned how to do whatever I'm like. Ok, this is the problem. Now I know how to keep, I know even if I'm not the one engineering I know how to explain it. And now I know what works for me when I'm in the studio, how, what my order of operation is with recording and everything.
Speaker 1:So OK, jane, what about you?
Speaker 2:As far as.
Speaker 1:Can you remember your first studio session?
Speaker 2:My first studio session was actually for my 16th birthday. My mom bought me a studio session for three of my friends and myself for my birthday and I recorded some terrible song that exists somewhere in the ether, yeah. But, as Tan has stated, it took a lot of growth, a lot of trial and error to get to the place that we are at today, and I would even like to say that the pandemic really, even though the pandemic was a very stressful time for everybody.
Speaker 1:Pandemic was a very stressful time for everybody.
Speaker 2:During the pandemic, tan and I we were on the Internet every single night just getting it, trying to write music and send stuff to producers back and forth to Atlanta or LA or wherever the case may be, because we needed it to be heard. And that's really how we kind of got on the path of getting the music to where it is now, because at that time I don't think Tan had taken any of the engineering sessions or lessons yet and we were like these songs are amazing, but I don't know why we're not getting any placements like we should. Something's not right. And so she took it upon herself to go and get some lessons, and after that we've been cooking with grease.
Speaker 1:That's super dope. Speaking of such, I want to talk about the song titled Untitled. Yes, how did that come about?
Speaker 2:did that come about? I had been working with the other artists on the song D-Lowes. We met through Rex Hardy. We met through Rex Hardy because they were recording something together. I had been working on things with D-Lowes. I liked the music he was doing. I remember telling Jhene and I was like I think y'all should work together. I think y'all will be be really, really, I think y'all voices will blend. Well, I think y'all got a similar um somewhat vibe kind of or appreciation for music. Um, so I set up, I told Lyle's the same thing and I set up a time for them to come together and then we met up in the studio um, I think it's Blockhouse studios, I think that's the name of it. We went over there and we started writing it. We were, we were all tired. I remember that. I remember all of us had had a long day today. I think we met up at seven. I think we were in the studio till about three writing this song.
Speaker 2:um, just writing it, just getting like the the bones done, like in the you know um mumbles and then lyrics and like we, we was like we're not leaving out here, till this song is done okay yeah, and it's interesting because, um, when we got there, we first of all we were eating okay, because I need some food before I do anything but while we were in there eating, liles was playing a track in the background Okay, and it was sounding really good and Tam was like I'm going to go back here and see what it is that he's messing around with and, surprisingly, this was a track that so many people had passed up on and said that they didn't like it, and we immediately knew, like this is what we need to be working on this is it.
Speaker 2:This is it, and as soon as we, as soon as he turned the microphone on, we got in there, like she said, and I just threw some mumbles in there.
Speaker 1:And now we have Untitled. So I mean like um, I was just planning for a friend of mine and she was like that's like super sexy, you know. I'm saying I was like thank you. So I appreciate y'all thoughts on the current state of songwriting. What do you think is? Do you think it has progressed? Do you think it's in a recession? I mean like I'll let y'all say that because y'all are songwriters.
Speaker 2:Would you like for me to answer this first or you, fran, go ahead. As I have stated, since we've been on this, call Monsoon for the 13 minutes and 17 seconds. These are the type of conversations that we have all the time, and what I mean by that is, first of all, I respect all of the singers, songwriters that are out there, because it is. It is not necessary, it is an easy thing because it is a gift that is given to you, but when it is not respected, that can put you in a really messed up place. However, what we, or what I will say, is I have noticed in previous conversations we have had, I believe, that a lot of the songs have been written from a perspective of a specific, maybe, type of person, or even men, and because of and that's no, no digs, you know, but we kind of sound like it.
Speaker 2:However, the divine feminine is absolutely necessary and because that has been missing from a lot of this music, you don't have the man crying no more on songs.
Speaker 1:That is true.
Speaker 2:You don't have that no more, because the women are not all the ones in the studio assisting writing these songs. You know Right, because the women are not all the ones in the studio assisting writing these songs.
Speaker 2:You know, and it's necessary in order for that emotion and that feeling to be there. And, in my humble opinion, I think that you have a lot of people that are in the industry that, of course, should be there, and there are some that should not and some of those that should not be in the industry. There are a lot of people that come from the streets, which I respect and understand, and if that's what you're supposed to be doing with music, then you go for it. But some people are in it just to make a quick dollar. They're able to, they know how to flip a little bit to get a little bit more, and that's what they're doing with the music. So they're not taking the time that's necessary to actually cultivate a song and piece it together and sit with it, because they're too busy making hits.
Speaker 1:We don't need hits. We need something that's going to be long lasting, and that's what we've been trying to do now. That's super dope. I love the way you broke that down, like like when you said like men don't cry and and offer songs anymore. I mean, if they do cry, they're crying because of their guys, you know, because they thinking about losing, and no, no, diddy no shade all tea right, no shade.
Speaker 1:You know, I just think that it's different times, it's different times and I think for me, I definitely appreciate those songs that can evoke if I'm using that word correctly can evoke the emotions where you really have to think, where it kind of makes you vulnerable. You know what I'm saying. You just can't be out here in your car just crying all the goddamn time, but you know, what I'm saying can't be out here just in your car just crying all the goddamn time.
Speaker 1:But you know I'm saying, but it's cool to have you know saying, to have some type of feelings, to get in touch with it. You know I'm saying so, I definitely.
Speaker 1:I like the way you broke that down yeah um, can, can y'all speak on the risk of getting into a new relationship and I want to go off this line that I that I heard in the song not knowing what's to come from the relationship. Can you really speak about the risk of getting into a new relationship and you don't know what the fuck gonna happen?
Speaker 2:it's definitely like um, it's scary, which is the premise of the song.
Speaker 1:Like it's scary, which is the premise of the song.
Speaker 2:It's scary because, especially when you're coming from a hurt past and then you're like, I really like this person, but also I don't want to get my feelings hurt again.
Speaker 1:I don't want to bust new car windows. Yeah right, I don't want nobody to take care of me.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly, so it definitely. And with the full project we're doing. A lot of the songs kind of touch on like the scariness of like jumping into something new, yeah, and being old and kind of. I just had this conversation the other day with somebody Like it's relinquishing control over the and understanding that you're gonna get hurt.
Speaker 2:it's not, it may not be intentional it's not appealing to look at it that way I know, right, right, it's scary, right because and that's what makes it scary, because you'd be like, oh, but I don't want, but it's like, but when you open your heart up to be invulnerable, that just it happens. And they don't even gotta be intentional, right, you're gonna hurt each other unintentionally. Um and the the, the beauty of it is growing or learning from a previous from, you know, from your previous things, instead of leaning on or leaning into how much it hurts. In the past, there were beautiful moments that were there too.
Speaker 1:Right and.
Speaker 2:I know that's what makes it scary. Jumping into something new is because all we keep seeing is how it went wrong and it's like but wait, there was. You know. Remember the cuddles and the walks and you know, places and the long talk like that stuff.
Speaker 2:Like if we focus, um, I think if you focus more on that stuff, then it it doesn't have to be as scary, because then you know what that feels like and then you also know when it's time to move, because you've done this before, so you also you don't have to hurt yourself again. You know, okay, this is no longer feeling good, so it's time for me to move on Right To exit.
Speaker 1:It's time for me to go. It's time for me to go Respectfully. It's time for me to go.
Speaker 2:Respectfully. It's time for me to go.
Speaker 1:Or it's time for you to go, that's right y'all. Yeah, right, yeah, respectfully, get your shit and you gotta go, right, okay. So you also have a line in the song that says be everything I need. I just need to be sure, like, what would that process look like individually for y'all Like to really be sure, what is some like, yeah, how would that look? What would make you confident? Like, ok, cool, I can do this, I'm willing to do this.
Speaker 2:I don't think that. I don't think anyone knows for sure ever. I think to a certain degree you have an understanding. But, as she said, when you're a person that has experienced hurt and disappointment, I think everyone in the back of their mind has that question on if it's going to work. But I also believe that that is when faith comes in. That is when faith comes in, and one thing that my mom has always mentioned or always taught me, is you always go the extra mile and do the best and you give your. All. That way, in the event something doesn't work out, you can never say, oh, there was something I could have done better. You did your part. If you weren't enough for that person, then that's their problem. That has nothing to do with you. Right? I like that. Yeah, for me too.
Speaker 2:Consistency I do try to pay attention to how consistent you are before making a leap. Again. That sometimes changes Right, like you get into the relationship and then all that goes out the window. That sometimes changes right, like you get into the relationship and then all that goes out the window. Sometimes that happens. But I try to pay attention to consistency and more so. I know I'm sure when I'm ready. It ain't got nothing to do with other person. I need to make sure I'm mentally, spiritually okay before entering something new. So when I'm in a place where I'm like, okay, I'm ready to try this again, I'm ready to let go of the pain, you know, into the joy, right, and lean into how I'm ready for that. So I'm going to now I'm sure right. Does that make sense? Like I'm sure?
Speaker 1:what I'm going to do with them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it definitely makes sense. And for me, I feel like the older I get, things are starting to look different. You know I'm saying like I think the expectations kind of change. You know what I'm saying, like especially for a man. So I think the myth sometimes, like we're just always about the physical portion of it, right. But for me, like the older you get, you start start to think like, well, what happens, how do you feel after that shit is done? You know saying like, do I really want you to leave immediately, or am I cool with you staying around for a couple of more hours? You see what I'm saying. So, like I think that's the part like when you start to say like am I ready to like really be with somebody, to have somebody like really occupy my space? You see what I'm saying because I think that's huge. You know what I'm saying because you know sex only lasts so long. You know what I'm saying. You can, you can take the honey, pack, all that shit, all you want. So you know what I'm saying. Eventually shit dies down. Eventually shit dies down, and then you gotta sit with that motherfucker you see what I'm saying and we gotta occupy each other's space. So it's kind of like how does that look? You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So when I listened to the song I thought about all that. I was like man, just the thought of reentering the potential to possibly be excited and stimulated or possibly be hurt. You know what I'm saying. That's why I really dig the song. I think it's super dope. Who did the production? I'm sorry, I want to make sure I got his super dope. Who did the production? Well D? I'm sorry, I want to make sure I got his name right. Who did the production on it?
Speaker 2:The music was.
Speaker 1:D-Loud.
Speaker 2:D-Loud D-Loud, d-loud, d-loud.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool. Have you ever seen? Well, have you ever seen a healthy relationship? No, I think that's perspective, but yeah, I love to ask that question because I love to see the response from different genders, different cultures. You see what I'm saying. Sometimes people ask well, what do you mean? You know what I'm'm saying? What's the characteristics? Well, you know, but why would you say? Why would you say yeah?
Speaker 2:because, again, I think it's perspective. It's if it's healthy. It's healthy because it's what I would find healthy or what I would consider like, oh, I want something like this, this would be cute, um, that's why it's well. So it's not what I consider healthy, may not be what janae or you consider healthy, but it's prospectively. I thought I think it's a healthy relationship.
Speaker 2:I've seen some that I consider healthy and what's healthy to you um, communication is a really big one, um, especially when times are hard. Um, and learning how to maneuver through those hard times, um and um. Reciprocity is a big thing too, in a real and, to me, for a healthy relationship. Um, watching, you know, it's not one person giving more than the other. Like I said, the communicate. Those are the main things for me, communication and reciprocity. That makes it, to me, makes a relationship look healthy. It was what I would consider a healthy relationship, ok.
Speaker 1:Janay, what about you?
Speaker 2:I would. I would agree with some of the things that she stated. I would also like to add comprehension, um, because just because communication is happening in a relationship doesn't mean the other person understands what you're saying, correct, and that is a really big problem. Just because you can read don't mean you understand what you read, you know.
Speaker 2:So I think that is, for me, is number one. And then I would also say emotional maturity on both ends, because you all can have conversations and really get into it or you all be at a really good space, but that, that emotional maturity, is what, in my opinion, is going to really, to a certain degree, be foundational for a relationship. Yeah, yeah, yeah, somebody got to talk the other one down, somebody got to talk the other one down.
Speaker 2:You know it can't be all the way back, Because it's going to happen. You're not going to be each other's piece all the time, Like really.
Speaker 2:It's going to happen. And when it does happen, you know it does take, like you said, emotional maturity for at least one of y'all to be like, hey, let's bring this back, let's have, let's figure out another way to, let's have a conversation, let's approach this differently, let's figure out what the problem is. Right. Both of us, both need it, like you said, because if that emotional maturity is not there, you can tell me you did XYZ, and if I'm not in a space that I am mature, we really now I'm getting back because I'm going to get my lick back. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:come on man, talk about the pettiness. Get my leg back. You know what I'm saying. Come on man, talk about the pettiness.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when y'all are, y'all are both there in that space and recognize that this is why we're together and we want to do this and you both desire to make, want to make it work, then then, then I think, oh yeah, I for sure think both people need emotional maturity. I also know, just realistically, as many years of therapy and spiritual counseling, everything I've had, I still have my moments. So that's why we both need to have it, because if I fall off the horse and I can't bring myself down, you know, I may need you to remind me. Hey, we're not doing that, you're right, let me bring myself down. I may need you to remind me hey, we're not doing that, you're right.
Speaker 1:I think that's a very good point. Then I think what Janay said about the comprehension piece you hear what I'm saying, but you don't really understand what I'm saying. It's easy to nod your head and be like I heard you. You know what I'm saying, because it's easy to nod your head and be like right, right, like you heard me, but it's like but did you really hear me? You know what I'm saying. So I think that part is like, I think that part is huge in this. And as far as the emotional maturity, I think there's a lack of emotional intelligence. You know what I'm saying? And I think when you have that, there's the potential for things to get blown out of proportion.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Like it's harder for me to take your criticism, you know, right. So now my guards are like up, they're like super flared up, and no matter what you say to me, it's going to come off as defensive yeah, it's hard, yeah, and be named to communicate too.
Speaker 2:Like today's not a good day, you know. Like we don't?
Speaker 2:you don't gotta be. A thing like today is I've been having an interesting day, okay, good, the thanks for letting me know, so we can you know how to move, know how to move forward in this. We're not going to do that whole I'm fine, I'm fine, everything's well. It's not because now you won't see what's going on, you know. So I think that's important, that's all of that. It's like to the what janae saying all that. That's a healthy relationship. How I see, how I see it anymore okay, okay.
Speaker 1:I want to talk about the video about the speed dating. I thought it was hilarious. How did that come about?
Speaker 2:We were having a group discussion me, janae and D Louse about how we want to do it. Louse said something about you know, cuffing season approach. I'm saying that's true, um, and we were. So we were trying to figure out what to do to market it. And so then I was sitting there I think I was high, and then I was like, oh, okay, we could do a, we could do a speed dating series. Um, one of my homies, bianca Shaw, she released a project called Get a Job and so she did like a little series where she worked with corporate Her and corporate did a bunch of random jobs. It was like she was doing OnlyFans in one video, another video. She was driving Lyft another video. It was that and I thought that was so creative.
Speaker 2:So I was like, okay, what if we did a Speed Dane series and it leads up to y'all meeting, right, but what it is is y'all often have some interesting dates, like it's going to be some really wild characters that y'all meet, and I called my homie Derek Dow, who directed and wrote the script for everything, and then my other homie, dami, who's the DP and editor of everything, and had them come together and create the Quickspark.
Speaker 1:Speed Dating Series.
Speaker 2:Can either one of you speak to a very memorable date that you either chose to remember or try your hardest to forget. Wait, okay, I'll go first, because I know what Tan's going to be and hers is way funnier. So a date that I went on, I hope. If this person ever sees this video, I hope they're not offended, but this is true. So I went on a date with this guy who had been wanting to go on a date with me and he don't get me wrong he was really sweet, he was really handsome, but he also wasn't necessarily my type. But I was giving him a shot. He, one of his family members, had a wedding and he asked me if I would go and I was like, yeah, I'd love to go to a wedding with you. And I was dressed up real cute.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm put together and I don't know if in Chicago y'all had a. It was the store out here in Gary called Tom Maleska's and they had these granddaddy walking suits. They was like linen walking suits with these crazy patterns. I'm a zoot suit-ish, you know what I'm saying. He came to pick me up. I already gave him a pass because I was not feeling that outfit. It was like the laughing stalk of the area if some young person went in there and bought it and I was like, okay, I'm gonna give him a shot. And then it was for me. It's the small things that be really turning me off, y'all. I looked at his uh, he had the, the suit on, but under he had, instead of a white beater on, he had some T-shirt, some screen T-shirt that he turned inside out. And I know this sounds really bad y'all, but I was like you didn't need that T-shirt on, bro, you could have just went naked. Why do you?
Speaker 2:have this on and it just really turned me off because I already wasn't really feeling it.
Speaker 1:And it kind of made up, so it really didn't take much. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:It didn't take much, and it's crazy, but you know, in all honesty, all of the guys that I have ever dated, whether we were in a full-blown relationship with one another or it was not. I don't have nothing bad to say about the men that I've dated in my lifetime. They don't get me wrong, they they've.
Speaker 2:They gave me some doozies you know, but I also recognize that we were all at different places and times in life and you reacted the way that you did. Oh yeah, but go ahead, tan. What's my most interesting? Well, the only one is the more recent one, because I had to, anyway. So I went, I was on the dating app and I met this person. He was really cool. We had a really great conversation, very handsome. We were supposed to go on a date.
Speaker 2:He tells me, prior to the date, in advance, that he had jaw replacement surgery. I said interesting, because I couldn't tell. And that's all he really said was I had jaw replacement surgery because he had, um, something happened in his whatever. Oh, they, he said they put a piece of his hip in his lower left side of his jaw and I was like, oh, I hope this man don't look like Kanye after the accident. And I was like, okay, okay, okay, he's gonna be fine. Like then, like because me and my cousin went through his pictures to try to see if we can see is this before or after his surgery?
Speaker 2:let's, we was trying to figure that out and then I met up with him and I was like, okay, he looks decent. And then we were talking and I could tell something because he would cover up his mouth a lot, and then he laughed like big and I realized the whole entire bottom left half of his mouth had no teeth. It was just completely no teeth down here. And I was like, oh, oh shit, I guess that makes sense because there's no teeth in the hip bone, right? So I guess that makes sense. He said that, um, the first time they gave him a replacement jaw from someone else or something and his body wouldn't take it. So then they put the hip bone there and then so they're trying to see if his body would take the hip bone, I guess, before they add the teeth. I don't know, um, but I love it. It was interesting and I tried to be cool because I'm like he's cool tan, you know, don't be so shallow, even though in my head I'm like I just can't demand no teeth but.
Speaker 2:I tried to be cool. You know we text a little bit, just it. But I knew I, I was like I I don't see myself being able to be attracted to him. But, um, he invited me over to his house like a couple days later and I was like, because he lived around the corner, I live far and I was like, okay, we can at least be friends.
Speaker 2:Maybe it's good to have a friend you can kick it with and I went out this house in no shade to low income housing, because that's not the issue I pulled up up. It was the low-income housing. It said it on the marquee this is low-income housing.
Speaker 2:I go into the lobby, yeah, on the low-income housing. And then I go into the lobby to the elevator and there's a big pile of dog shit and I just was like you got to be kidding me and I was staring at it and the voice in my head was like you got to be kidding me and I was staring at it. And then a voice in my head was like Tan, turn around.
Speaker 1:I'm like don't be like that.
Speaker 2:I was like don't be like that, because you know, this is just an apartment, right? This ain't his apartment, this is the apartment building.
Speaker 2:And so I remember going up into his apartment. He had a studio apartment. I went in there and I remember thinking oh no, especially that on short, and I was like, oh okay, and his couch was like this multi-colored couch where it was like stains and had an odor. He had a cat and the cat hair was everywhere and the cat was all over what kept. It was like the cat was all over me. So then the fur was all over me and then he tried to like touch me or something and because I didn't want to do anything with him, especially not in this disgusting apartment like an attitude and sat in the because against the studio. So his bed was next to the couch and he sat on his bed away from me because he was mad about it.
Speaker 2:I went to the bathroom and his bathroom had beard hair stuck on the wall. It was disgusting. I said, okay, I got to get up out of here. Then I just was like no, this is fine, I'm going. I blocked him as soon as I got to the car. I was like I'm not doing this, no more.
Speaker 1:Damn.
Speaker 2:Damn.
Speaker 1:Look, all right, shit, I mean mean gotta step your game up.
Speaker 2:At least make sure your crib clean, huh minimum. I even asked him. I said you know that this pal dog shit? He said yeah, that's been there since this morning.
Speaker 1:I said oh okay, oh oh, nobody, nobody wanted to get that.
Speaker 2:Huh, nobody, nobody felt like they should pick it up. Everybody just said it it ain't my problem, it's not my dog.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Okay, I got a serious question right. So, since we're talking about dating, you know the risk of hopping into relationships with people. So here's the situation you have somebody that you are physically attracted to, like they get you. You know what I'm saying. When you see them, you like, yeah, you get it. You know, when you talk to them, the conversations are stimulating conversations and they treat you right. So you're thinking like, ok, cool, I can move forward with this person, right. But then you find out he a bucket boy. Like he plays buckets.
Speaker 2:Literal bucket boy Okay.
Speaker 1:Right he a bucket boy. Do you move forward with it?
Speaker 2:Does he have a job outside of playing the buckets, or is that?
Speaker 1:all no, but he make decent money off the buckets.
Speaker 2:Well, we bucketing together baby kids or is that all? No, but he make decent money off the buckets. Well, we bucketing together. Baby, can you pay his bills with this, okay?
Speaker 1:I'm gonna say, yep, he, he found a very decent intersection and he can, he could pay. Would you still be with him?
Speaker 2:I would. I would. However, this is with the intention of him not playing the buckets forever. Yeah, and what I mean by that? Okay is your dream. Well, unless you want to just be the best bucket boy in the world, then what are we doing to get you there? You know what I'm saying. But if there is more potential for you and this women tend to see potential in me and try to fix things, men and try to fix things but if there is real potential, that is there and I see that you are actually doing what you need to do in order to be bigger than what you are, then I will do what I can to assist you with getting to your next. But if you are just being the bucket boy, because you're okay with just being that and not being the best at it, then I'm not your girl okay, I like that.
Speaker 1:I like that honest answer. Yeah, what about you tend to live?
Speaker 2:um, some probably more so similar. I'm learning to stay out of stuff, so I've learned to don't give your gift or power away so quickly. So, like Janae said, if this, if you're aspiring to something, I know what I want for my life and how I envision it looking. So, with that being said, if you aspire for something more cool, we can work together. Like she said, you know, I think that women women as when we do typically come in and try to help, you know, push to the next level. But I'm only doing that if you want that. If that's not what you want, then I'm going to.
Speaker 1:Um, we can be friends okay, um shifting gears, who are some of you? Uh, you, who are some of y'all musical influences.
Speaker 2:Ooh For me. I would say the Emotions. I would say Big Crit, I would say Victoria Monet, I would say any. I went to a performing arts school so we learned a lot of Negro spiritual music and one of the people that I fell in love with was Moses Hogan. He was an arranger. Those would be off top the people, and Beyonce, of course. Those would be the influences for me for sure. Okay, mine are a lot of old school soulful artists.
Speaker 2:My mama listened to a lot of Gladys Knight. Gladys Knight is one of my all-time favorites. I feel like people sleep on Gladys um. But what I love about Gladys and her music is how emotionally connected her songs like she. It is basically um, from the background arrangements to like like. One of my favorite songs of hers is, I feel, a song in my heart again because of the changes in the song, how it gets real dramatic at one point and then when it gets to the hook and she's happy, the music changes like. That's like. I think people sleep on gladys knight and how phenomenal she is. But gladys knight, uh. Reetha franklin, um. I love artists who Jasmine Sullivan, any people who put up a like. It's not just a song, it's an experience. That's what I like about Kendrick Lamar, like it's not just a song, it's an experience. So people who create experiences in music are the ones are, and it doesn't even matter the genre.
Speaker 2:Those are like my top favorites.
Speaker 1:That's dope, that's dope, that's dope. I'm a big fan of Big KRIT and definitely Jasmine Sutherland. I think she's an awesome songwriter. Yeah, definitely, definitely. Before we end this, I want to play a game real quick and it's called 4 for 4, right? So basically, I give you a word or a phrase and you respond with four words. You can only respond with four words, okay, all right. So, yeah, this take a lot of counting, you know, sometimes, sometimes people just blur out, out and I be like nigga, that was eight words, you know what I'm saying a piece or like four words all together four words.
Speaker 1:I'm going to give Jhene one, you one, alright, so I'm going to go with you first, jhene no, no, no.
Speaker 2:I need the rules again.
Speaker 1:I need the rules again if you can only respond, I'm going to give you either a word or a phrase, and you can only respond with four words got it let's just say um, so let's say, if the word was Donald Trump, I would probably say we are fucked up. Okay, got it. Got it, alright, what I'm saying. Yeah, so I'm going to go with you first, jenae, okay.
Speaker 2:Bad dates. Bad dates.
Speaker 1:Everybody has them. Oh, you broke up. Everybody, huh, everybody has them. Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 2:Oh, you broke up. Everybody huh Every time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, Works for me Works for me, tend to live.
Speaker 2:Low income housing. Pay attention to signs.
Speaker 1:There we go, there we go, there we go, janae Summertime. Summertime, hmm, always need the lake oh, that's nice, that's nice, uh, tendalia heartbreak a learning experience for all are you combining for all?
Speaker 2:Yep, she said what she said, okay.
Speaker 1:I'm not judging. I'm not judging at all.
Speaker 2:We listen and we don't judge.
Speaker 1:I feel you on that. I feel you on that. I feel you on that. Janae, dirty socks.
Speaker 2:Put them in Washing machine, combined it again Combined it.
Speaker 1:Washer machine Commander again Commander.
Speaker 2:Put him in washer.
Speaker 1:Put him in washer. There you go, Julia. Last one Untitled.
Speaker 2:Uncertainty for the future Wow.
Speaker 1:Oh, I like that. I like that. I appreciate y'all playing it and I also appreciate y'all Um, give me all time, Cause I always tell people time is way more important. It's way more valuable I don't know important, but it's way more valuable than money. You know what I'm saying. You can get money back. Can't get time back at all. You know what I'm saying. So, with that being said, let people know where they can find y'all at what y'all got coming up performances, Instagram pages, Facebook pages, TikTok, all that.
Speaker 2:Okay. Well, first of all, I want to say thank you for having us. We sincerely appreciate this because your time is valuable as well. All right, thank you, but what we have coming up? We have been releasing different episodes to the Quick Sparks. I actually just released the second episode on my page this evening or earlier today, and they can find that at janae jones sings on all platforms okay, hold on for one second.
Speaker 1:Make sure I spell this right.
Speaker 2:That ain't right. Oh no, who's John? John David Graham. Yes, that is correct.
Speaker 1:There you go, Tenderly. What about you Same?
Speaker 2:difference. We, that is correct. There you go. Okay, tenderly, what about you? Same difference we're releasing the series. The song is out. I'll be performing at City Winery on January 21st. It's a rarity, it's a very rare experience. I don't really perform, but, yeah, I'll be performing at City Winer on January 21st. I got on top of this project I'm doing with Janae. I got several other artists who are releasing projects or songs that I've written in this upcoming year. That will be coming out as well, and you can find me either at Sessions with Tandalea or at Master Plan 10. Everything is on one of those two pages.
Speaker 1:I want to make sure I got this right.
Speaker 2:Yes Sessions with Tandalea Yep, you got the name right. I'm so glad you know and I'm glad you remember, because typically people don't remember how to pronounce it.
Speaker 1:I'm doing it again, so I'm still impressed, you know and you know what, give a mad shout out to CPS education. God damn it. You know what I'm saying. They did something right. They did something right. Yeah, they did something right, yeah.
Speaker 1:Once again, I want to thank y'all for y'all time and really thank y'all for y'all talent. The song is dope. I'm saying that with all sincerity. You know the person that I let listen to it. She like Alright, alright.
Speaker 1:I definitely appreciate the song and I always like to hear good music. You know what I'm saying. And for me, having an opportunity to say that I was able to sit down and talk with these wonderful individuals, you know what I'm saying. It's a blessing for me. I love it. You know what I'm saying. So I appreciate y'all time, y'all talent, and the creators are needed, y'all the ones that keep people sane, and I definitely agree with what you said earlier about the music that's needed that make motherfuckers want to cry. You know what I'm saying. We can't be fighting all the goddamn time. You know what I'm saying. You know. Cry sometimes, nigga. You know. Please Cry your cotton. You know what I'm saying, but there's nothing wrong with it. And yo, if y'all got anything that's coming up, you know what I'm saying hit me up. I'll definitely promote it on the platform I'm going to be seeing y'all again.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for having us. Thank you for platforms like this that give us an opportunity to share and talk about our music. As you know, especially being a creative and especially independent artist, there's not a lot of platforms that give us that opportunity.
Speaker 1:Thank you, no problem, you're very welcome. You're very welcome. Keep making that dope shit, thank you, and watch out for the dog shit in the apartment. Watch me go Shout out to all the dudes out there. If y'all having somebody over clean up the fucking apartment, clean, y'all having somebody over clean up the fucking apartment, clean the house at least get some plug hands, my nigga they go a long way for real.
Speaker 1:Y'all be cool and stay blessed and much success to y'all in the future. Real talk, no problem later. Peace. Future real talk, thank you, no problem later, peace. Yo, that was dope, y'all. That was dope. Shout out to my guests uh, coming through kicking it with me y'all. Make sure y'all, y'all stay tuned, check them out with everything they got going on the song. Hey, when I say the song Untitled is dope, it's dope, it's dope as hell, I mean that. So I'm going to leave y'all with this man.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't know who need to hear this, but live in the moment. Live in the moment and pace yourself. Live in the moment. Live in the moment and pace yourself. Try not to overthink and just enjoy what's in front of you for real Because, like I said, time is valuable. You don't want to waste it, so enjoy it. Don't overthink, pace yourself. It's a lot of beautiful stuff out there. There's a lot of beautiful minor things out there that you can experience and have a wonderful day. Always remember y'all. The dots will connect, they will connect. You got to believe that.
Speaker 1:Anyway, I want to give a mad shout out to the family Joey, bryce, jalen, smokedgy Dog, mama, that's the cat. That's my cat. Y'all Don't be fronting on me. I got a fucking cat and her name is Mama. Also, leave y'all with make fans, not followers. Followers will get you clout. Fans will get you work. Trust the process. Shout out to my man, deck of D process. Shout out to my man, deck of Durs. Shout out to my man, bub G. Shout out to B Carrington. Shout out to my girl, dee Dee Licious. Shout out to the Pig Pockets. God damn it. It's some major shit coming up.
Speaker 1:Y'all and shameless, plug y'all. Make sure y'all check out my new single y'all that Auntie's Joint. It's on all streaming platforms. It's called that Auntie's Joint. Y'all. Make sure y'all go check it out. And make sure y'all check out the podcast, the Shits Podcast, on all streaming platforms Spotify, apple Podcast, anywhere you get your podcasts at we on there, god damn it. So make sure y'all check it out and I will see y'all around. Man, thank y'all for tuning in, thank y'all for supporting and shout out to my guests tanda leah and janae jones had a dope time, dope conversation, and I'll let y'all peace. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.